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And your reason why or why not
Pats because 1.I think they can and 2. because I'm a homer, duh.
Who "needs" the win more..pats or ravens?
I went with us to win, based on a prediction of a better week of practice, more time to develop a realistic replacement method for Hernandez instead of working on the fly, and the fact that this loss stung and woke them up a bit.
As to 'who needs it more?' That's a tough question b/c both teams will still be very much alive with a loss in their respective divisions, but if I had to pick one or the other I would pick the NEP. That is based on the fact that the expectations were incredibly high off of another SB loss, the good draft, and the correcting of some weaknesses. Starting 1-2 would hurt the Pats more than it would the Ravens.
Just my opinion of course. Arguments can be made both ways.
See i think the ravens 1-2 hurts way more based on their rough schedule and tougher division. They have NEVER made the playoffs when they have started 1-2 or worse...this is a big game for them
I'm afraid the Ravens will win handily. The Ravens D will feast on the Pats' offensive line. The Patriots defense will keep things close enough into the fourth quarter but will succumb to too much time on the field and Baltimore will win by two scores. Plus, the Ravens will be amped for revenge, the crowd will be loud, etc., etc.
Hope I'm wrong.
I unfortunate see it this way as well...for now.
The thought of the jets leading the division for even a week makes me
cuz Mr. C. Jones said so
Either this or a 38-17 blowout in favor of Baltimore. This is the single hardest game on the schedule and there is no real shame in losing it. Losing last week doesn't change that.
Hardest game on the schedule is NOT the ravens..houston and 49ers will be even tougher than the ravens.
Ravens will win because.....
1) 20 of last 21 wins at home......even better home record than the Pats the past 2 seasons.
2) Edelman cannot penetrate the slot like Wes can and I think Belichick continues this dumb ass game of spite tactics which is hurting the offense.
3) Hernandez creates havoc with DCs....now they just double Gronk and it gets tough,Brady to Lloyd has been mediocre and Reed is going to be tough.
4) Fans screaming and the revenge factor from the AFCCG
Only turnovers can pull this one out for the Pats IMO.
As far as BAL never making it to the playoffs at 1-2 I think you'd have to look at 2 factors to properly assess that statistic:
1. How many overall teams and what percentage made it at 1-2
2. The fact that BAL hasn't been in the NFL all that long
I think that proper execution by the Patriots can give them a shot in just about any situation. It will all come down to whether or not the defense can continue to look good, the limiting of turnovers, and how well the offense executes in my opinion.
A good week of practice and proper execution can go a long way.
Except that we play AT BUF in the next game.
I thought it was Denver.......my bad
game before that is buffalo..and if we lose to the ravens..i expect them to destroy buff
And Houston will beat the broncos..they are just too good
Brady 8-1 against the Ravens. Enough said. But in all fairness, the Ravens offense is more deadly with the addition of the downfield threats, but the Pats defense is way better than last year's. The Pats can take Ray Rice out of the game and let Flacco try to beat them. Pats offense will play better and they should go do more of the no-huddle, short-passing stuff that got them to the super bowl in 2011. Hernandez isn't there, but Lloyd and his downfield playmaking ability will have to be accounted for, something the Ravens didn't have to do last year with Ochocinco. Deion is now the 3rd WR, and he will be more productive there than the #2 WR spot he was in last year.
Ahhh...enough said? The pats were 10-0 in home openers and look what happened
Patriots will buttf*** the Ravens on Sunday.
Cardinals defense is a step up from the Ravens D this season, and the Patriots won't be sleeping on the Ravens. Brady plays well mad, and watch for the offense to shut up the naysayers.
There might be a pick, but it won't stop the onslought. 35-17 Pats.
I'm saying pats by less than 3, down to the wire.
Because the team got it's first taste of crow last Sunday and have come back to earth. I think the team will be focused and determined, (as will the Ravens).
With the age of Balt's D, they run out of steam in the 4th while the Pats young D still has fuel to burn. Chandler and Dont'a...Say hi to Flacco!
Our O line has another week to gel and Brady should be ready to kill. Gronk, Wes, and now Twigs are back together, and that is chemistry as 3 out of 4 of Brady's favorite targets. If Lloyd clicks in a little more, all the better. Ridley keeps them from thinking pass all day long.
I think it'll be a battle, I think the refs will blow a few calls (for and against the Pats) as we can expect. I expect the team to surprise a few people especially on this board. I know I could be wrong, but then again, so could those who say we get smoked.
You'll never make as many mistakes as I do my friend.
That's the whole 'issue' I have with the supposedly easy schedule, we play the first 3 out of 4 on the road, then come back vs DEN in primetime, then go all the way out west to SEA, then home to the NYJ, then all the way to London to play the Rams.
AT London vs STL
Looks like it's not such as easy schedule coming off a loss last week. There's a lot of traveling involved and some tough teams too.
People will say that games like at BUF, at SEA, and at STL (London) are easy, but all 3 have the potential to beat us, all 3 have a tough defense, and all 3 are playing better than anyone thought.
And that's not even bringing up the 3 games against BAL, DEN, and the NYJ.
This is a very important 6 game stretch in my opinion, and we haven't seen the last of the losses by any stretch before the bye week.
Yep....more and more reason why strength of schedule is the biggest joke of the offseason.
No one knows who will be tough and who won't.
This so called 'cakewalk' schedule has lost some icing
Both of those games are in Foxboro and by then (mid/late December), the Pats will hopefully be in synch on offense and the young players will be even more settled (hopefully avoiding the "rookie wall") in the defense.
Playing Baltimore in Baltimore, given they are thirsty for revenge for the Pats AFCCG win, both teams coming off a loss but the Pats offense looking sloppy and the line looking shaky (to be kind). For my money, this is and will be the hardest game on the schedule even though IMO both Houston and San Francisco are better teams than the Ravens.
The Ravens - even without Suggs - match up extremely well against the Pats muddled and weak OL and they have a history of playing the Patriots extremely well. They should beat the Pats by 2 scores. Whether or not they do depends on McDaniels' preparation and gameplanning.
They could still easily come 5-1 or 4-2 out of that stretch. I think they beat denver buff jets and stl...den and balt...will be tough
Buff wont have a game against them like last year in buff..especially if we lose to balt or two in a row
Their two hardest games come vs houston and 49ers back to back at home later in year.everything else is very winnable i think
Hope I am completely wrong (which happens VERY frequently of course!) but I see the Ravens D just completely controlling our OL and getting to Brady early and often. I also think they will shut down our running game and force Brady to try to make quick throws and decisions. I think if we can get the quick screens and RB dump offs going it could make it interesting.... On D we should do a pretty good job containing Rice....but he is Ray Rice after all and he is going to get some production on runs and through the air. Flacco will most likely have a good day against our secondary.....this isn't Kevin Kolb we are dealing with this week. Lastly, they are at home and are VERY good/tough at home. We had a great home streak record going too...so maybe that won't be as strong a factor as I think it will be.......Will think up my score prediction and post that when the topic comes up by Alamo....I HATE THE Ravens more than almost any other team.....but unfortuneatly they are going to get this one......
1) Our offense sucks.
2) Our pass defense sucks.
3) The Ravens defensive line will kill our offensive line.
The Ravens win by 10. Final score 27-17.
Offense sucks..can you be a little more specific?
Pats win. Ravens O line is not that good. Pats will be good against the run, get pressure on Flacco, and likely a pick. Ravens D line is not as good as the Cardinals D line and won't get pressure on Brady to the degree that the Cardinals did (no Suggs). Pats O line will play better. Pats will score and look good doing it. Pats by 10 or more.
This. I think of the game at Pittsburgh in 2010, and the game at the Jets last year. Gonna' be close, I think, but we pull it out at the end, kind of like the game at Pittsburgh in 2005.
I hate to tip against the Patriots but I'm going to select the Ravens. Why you ask... because Justin Tucker is automatic at present.
I imagine it to be a 24-23 type of game with the potential to go either way.
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