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  1. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

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    Colts (6-3) at Patriots (7-2) - don't need to explain this one.

    Texans (4-5) at Jets (7-2) - nor this one.

    Raiders (5-4) at Steelers (6-3), this one could go either way. If you are worried the steelers might pass us root for the raiders. I figured if the Steelers do pass us than the Pats aren't playing their best football in Nov/Dec and a post season run would just be a one and done. So I am rooting for improving our draft pick.

    Ravens (6-3) at Panthers (1-8) - Once again I am not worried so much about the Ravens having a game and a half lead cause of the tie breaker, so I am rooting for the improvement of our second round pick. As an added bonus: if we and the Steelers win the division the Ravens have the tiebreaker over the Jets. Watching the Jets miss the playoffs would bring almost as much joy as the Patriots making the playoffs.

    Packers (6-3) at Vikings (3-6), - our third round pick

    Lions (2-7) at Cowboys (2-7) -doesn't affect the Pats much way...both teams have equal records and either one or the other will improve/hurt pick situation. Rooting for a tie. 4 days of rest after playing 75 mins of football.

    Bills (1-8) at Bengals (2-7) -- Hmm Bengals win could get them to tie with the Vikings. Bills win could get them ahead of Panthers. Moving up a spot in the second round is better than the third.

    Browns (3-6) at Jaguars (5-4), eff Mangini. Plus want the Jags ahead of the Raiders.

    Buccaneers (6-3) at 49ers (3-6), helps the picks more.

    Cardinals (3-6) at Chiefs (5-4), not worried about the Chiefs beating out the Pats for bye/homefield. Am worried about Oakland making the playoffs and killing the value of the pick.

    Falcons (7-2) at Rams (4-5) - would like the Rams to pass Oakland.

    Giants (6-3) at Eagles (6-3) - don't care

    Redskins (4-5) at Titans (5-4), Just cause I don't want to see any "Moss is awesome thread, BB should never have let him go" threads

    Seahawks (5-4) at Saints (6-3), get ahead of Oakland, plus we have the Saint's 7th.

    Broncos (3-6) at Chargers (4-5), Get ahead of Oakland.

    Bears (6-3) at Dolphins (5-4), Dolphins ain't challenging us for the playoffs and if they do we don't deserve to make the playoffs. I would like the fish to draft before the Raiders however.
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    Ravens hold tie-breaker over the Jets for seeding purposes. But, both will probably make the playoffs. Only way jets miss is if one of 5-4 teams pass them. Tenn still plays Indy 2x. Miami is probably the only 5-4 that can catch them. Only because they still have a game left with them.
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    I think your putting too much emphasis on these draft picks. The Steelers should lose because who says we don't lose a couple of more games?
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    I wouldn't mind seeing Tennessee win, start making a push to overtake the Colts. Not that a jeff Fisher team is a lot more likable than Indy, just a little.

    I also wouldn't mind seeing Denver beat SD -- I'd prefer not to see the Chargers in the playoffs
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    I normally agree with you 100% on your breakdowns - but you really gotta forget the picks in these instances. Let's worry about this year.

    The reality is Belichick could probably care less if his pick is #12 or #18. If there is a player within a reasonable range that he wants to get, he will go and get that player using his other picks. So, and especially for the Raiders and Panthers picks at the top, a few spots here and there is rather irrelevant.

    Having our competition for HFA lose is much, much, much more important.
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    I look forward to this thread every week. It's like a sign of the change of the seasons; time to officially stop talking about last week's game and instead discuss the upcoming matchups.

    It's a delicate balance between rooting for other winning teams to lose for conference standings versus rooting for other teams to win in order to make those draft picks the Pats traded for better. I guess it comes down to how much faith you have that the Pats will finish with a better record than the Steelers or Ravens - or I guess I should say at least the same record, since they would win the head-to-head tiebreaker.

    To a lesser extent it's the same with which team to root for on some of those other games in which neither team is threatening the Pats for best overall record.

    For example: who do you think will win more games between now and the end of the season, Dallas or Detroit? If you think Detroit will have more trouble finding wins do you root for them, to insure they stay ahead of Carolina? If you think Dallas can win more games do you root for them to win and pass Minnesota and maybe even catch up to Oakland?

    As for the AFCW I think San Diego wins it. Hopefully the Chiefs can stay ahead of the Raiders but I don't think that can happen and also at the same time the Broncos catch up to Oakland.
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    I agree. I want the Steelers, Ravens & Dolphins to lose. They can all still threaten us for better seeding/knocking us out in the playoffs. I vote for any NFC team to beat any AFC team too, for the same reason.
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    i'm feeling ya dog. gotta root against the steelers and ravens at least. they are too close behind. im not too sure about chiefs either.

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    You're kind of contradicting yourself here. You want the Pats to win, why? To improve their record, which gives us a better seed/homefield in the post season which gives us the best chance to win the Super Bowl. I think we all agree with this. However, if we win we get the 32nd pick.
    You then say we should root for the Steelers and Ravens, both team that have a significant chance to affect our seeding/homefield in the post season, because of... draft picks? How is a 2nd round pick, or even a 11-20 pick more important than postseason seeding?
    I think you have to root against both the Steelers and Ravens.
    If Oakland was 0-9 right now, I could see rooting for the Steelers as a one time thing as Bill could turn a #1 overall in to 50 other picks in the next 3 drafts, but since Oakland will likely not crack the top 10, there is no way I can justify wanting to see the Steelers win so we move from #18 to #17 when it could very well cost us homefield, a bye, or god forbid, a chance at the wildcard.
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    Do you want to see SD in the playoffs?
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    People get way to crazy into draft picks. I hope everyone who would have a playoff spot today loses, besides us.
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    Well he's been mostly right in the past weeks on who to root for, but now that it's a playoff race we can forget about the draft picks and look at what gives us the best chance at a Superbowl this year. Isn't that the whole reason we value draft picks so much, so that we can acquire good enough players to help us win a Superbowl? As of now, we can hope for teams like the Steelers or Ravens to lose because it will help us the most this year. When the Raiders are playing a team non AFC or a team that has no chance of challenging us for a playoff spot this year, we can then root against them. Worst case scenario, the Steelers win and our draft pick improves.
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    My thinking is this. Pats have a 1.5 game lead on each. If the Pats blow that they aren't playing good football in Nov/Dec. If they aren't playing good football in Nov/Dec they ain't gonna get themselves the 32nd seed.

    In NE, sure why not. But seriously doubt it. What I am rooting for is SD being 2nd in the division and Oakland 3rd.
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    We have 74 rookies starting for us (I am bad at math). We WILL make more mistakes as the season goes on. The Jets are not giving us breathing room in the division and 1.5 games on the Steelers and Ravens is not a lead I am comfortable enough with to root for them to actually win. Specially with 7 games left in the season.
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    The only issue I have is this.

    I want the Giants to lose every game they ever play from now until the end of time.
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    My same question, i could see Rivers being a problem in playoffs.
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    Even though the team has had playoff success vs SD, I want no part of a cross-country trip vs a talented team and a very good QB.

    At home vs a warm weather team is a different story. Bring it.
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    Yeah, I could stand to see the @ Foxboro, but out in S.D. would be rough. We barely escaped alive the first time this season.
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    No sir. I want the Giants to make it to the Super Bowl so we can crush them 500-0.
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    But sooner or later they will play the Jets or Colts, and what do you do then? Are you like me and in that case you root for a minor asteroid impact at the 50 yard line in the middle of the game?
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    Right, for some reason I'd almost be certain that they'll beat us in SD again if we had to play them again, especially with all of their starting receivers back sooner or later.

    I hope they beat Colts again this year when they play though :p
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    Yeah, I don't want the Chargers in the playoffs.
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    Winning 19-0 would be pretty cool :D
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    I like rooting for the draft picks. Agree that if we tank and lose several more games then we're not the kinda team that's gonna win the AFCCG anyhow, so missing the playoffs or 6th seed is likely not a disaster. These teams have ALL proven that they can lose games.
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    No way I am rooting for the Chargers, just because of soe draft pick as long as they are still able to reach the Playoffs.

    And I dont see too many reasons to hope the steelers and ravens win either, apart from making sure, that the colts are bounced out of the playoffs.
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    To those worried about the fun draft pick driven selections, think about this. Assume the Pats beat the Jets Dec 6th. Even given that, the Pats in a quest for the AFCE Championship cannot afford to lose ANY game unless the Jets also lose because the Jets own the AFC record tie breaker over us since our non-Jet loss was to an AFC team while theirs was to an NFC team. Imagine being a wildcard at 13-3. Point being that the Pats have to 'win out' with a victory over the Jets while only losing a game when the Jets also lose unless the Jets' loss is to an AFCE team or certain AFC teams.
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    Don't worry..those horeshoes up the Jets butt are going to fall out pretty soon.....:rolleyes:
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    The Jets lost to the Ravens you know. If we beat the Jets the division record and conference record become tied I believe.
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    I think rooting against the Steelers and Ravens is a very interesting debate this week. It is almost like a basketball game where you are down 2 with the last shot. Do you want to risk it with a 3 pointer to win or go in just to tie it up. If you are a risk taker, then you take the 3 or root for Steelers and Ravens to lose because you want to win both the better draft pick and also the highest seed in the playoffs. I am confident with the Patriots that will happen. Some are less conservative here and just want to make SURE that they get the best seeding. It is definitely tough. I think you have to look at the Pats, Ravens and Steelers schedules and guess what you think the records will be based on the remaining opponents.

    I love the draft and think its huge to get the higher draft picks.

    What I like seeing ahead is that the Steelers play the Ravens again so that is automatically 1 loss for one of them.

    For the Steelers, they play Raiders, Bills, Ravens, Bengals, Jets, Carolina, and the Browns. I think they could win every game with the Ravens and Jets being tough games. I do however HOPE for seedings that the Steelers BEAT the Jets so based on looking at the schedule the right response would be for even a risktaker is to have Oakland lose. It is tough to say, but that is what it shows.

    For the Ravens, they play Carolina, Bucs, Steelers, Denver, Saints, Browns and Bengals. For this one I think Ravens could lose to Steelers, Saints and maybe Browns. For some reason i am not too confident with the Ravens so my pick would be Ravens win this game.

    Decision: Go Pats, Raiders and Ravens!!!!
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