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Who showed the best judgement Part 1 : VP choice

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  1. Lifer

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    Obama picked Joseph Biden, a man completely qualified to be President of the United States.
    McCain completely panicked, and picked a token woman without vetting her and after only meeting her twice. A woman totally unprepared to be President of the United States. McCain did not put the country first with this choice, he made a 100% political decision, and one that seems like an act of desperation, when he wasnt in a desperate situation.

    hmmm, Judgement and temperment. I'll take Obama answering that phone at 3AM thank you very much.
     
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    I'd take the reformer over the bully.
     
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    Hard to disagree. :eat3:
     
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    thats great. When negotiating foreign policy with Iran, Iraq, Russia, North Korea........the reformer who cleaned up city hall doesnt do much good. id take the bully.

    it would be like Dukakis taking on the Soviets because he was a master of no-fault auto insurance.

    * btw, Dukakis at least had a lot more credentials than President Palin.
     
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    Biden hasn't been right about a whole lot. He voted for the war, was against the surge, wanted to split Iraq up.
     
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    Wow, way to confuse your opinion with fact. Biden is completely qualified to be President? Sorry but a career Senate seat warmer does not a Commander in Chief make. I don't know enough about Palin yet but, I'll take a Gov over a senator any day. At least they have managed a budget, made exec decisions etc. "McCain completely panicked, and picked a token woman without vetting her and after only meeting her twice." Absurd comment. No one at his level is not handled by a political machine. They knew exactly what they were getting.
     
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    I don't think it's that cut and dried Lifer.

    You need a VP that enhances what you have and what you are.
    Biden was a good choice for Obama but would have been a lousy choice for Hillary.
     
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    It depends on the goal.

    McCain's decision from a political standpoint was absolutely brilliant. The same candidate that appeases the extreme right wing nut jobs of his party while at the same time causing Obama additional headache unifying his own party and getting the support the support of the Clinton supports. Plus it gives cover to anyone who claims to be a progressive, but still has some racist views, b/c they can vote for McCain and still feel progressive cause they voted for the women. Plus she can not be linked to the Bush administaration, she is as far away from the beltway you can get without leaving the continent.

    However, from a governing stand point she does she add anything to help a McCain administration.

    Obama's pick form a political standpoint was horrible.

    Obama's pick from a governing standpoint was exactly what he needs. Someone with experience he can rely on to help in the decision making. Much the way Chenney did for Bush.
     
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    A career politician with 0 executive experience, plagiarizer with hair plugs is the decision maker? :eek:
     
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    Hmmmmmm..... Let's see.

    A guy that running ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY on Hope and CHANGE...... picks a career Washington insider that is the complete antipathy of CHANGE.

    Plus Biden has been wrong on just about EVERY major foreign policy issue in the last several decades.

    OR....

    The guy that IS KNOWN for taking chances and a big believer in reform and NOT doing something just for the sake of "same ole, same ole", picking a little known Washington outsider, with a history of reform and the courage and conviction to set aside party politics in deference to "doing the right thing".

    I don't know.......... Pretty tough choice.

    Lets not even get into The Obamessiah's other judgement gaffs (like Wright, Flelger and Ayers).

    Yes, that bullying attitude sure helped when Biden told our longest and arguably most important ally (Israel) , to "GET OVER IT" about the inevitability of Iran getting a Nuclear Weapon.


    Perfect, this guy is fukcing surrendering for Iran years before taking office. Swell :rolleyes:
     
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    What good id experience at being consistently wrong in your judgements over a period of 30 years?

    He is very experienced at being wrong though.
     
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    So to sum it up:

    McCain made a decision primarily with thoughts of winning and with little thought of what's best for the country.

    Obama made a decision primarily with the fate of the country in mind even if it didn't give him the best chance to win.


    Hmmm.. yeah, easy decision as to which one should be elected. ;)


    By the way - what's with the fawning over Palin for not having an abortion? After all, she is AGAINST abortion isn't she? Therefore, isn't it to be expected that she wouldn't have an abortion, even if the kid has Down's Syndrome? :rolleyes:

    Or are the rightwingers admitting that their opposition to abortion is largely based on a desire to control women's sexual behaviour and not their "value of life propaganda", so an anti-choice woman who actually practices the propaganda deserves to be given heroine status?
     

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