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    Not sure what your correlation between the minimum wage and tax breaks are but here is the latest table on taxes from the Congressional Budget Office.

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    I was asking you, what is the percentage of americans that earn millions a year and so richly deserve a tax break?
    The rich and middle class got a tax break to stimulate the economy.
    Would the poor who got more than 5.25 per hr, spend it in the american economy, also contribute to stimulating the economy? or no?
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    #87 Jersey

    Minimum wage is important in a very depressed economy...and for little else.
    Minimum wage is made mostly be teenagers...however...because many people love having teens working for them because they are all part-time workers.

    Minimum wage used to be a smoke and mirrors issue for democrats due to it's symbolism of protecting the worker.

    I'd bet that the percentage of people caring about minimum wage (those making it) is pretty close to the people that the tax break will effect...so, they end up on the same bill passed.
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    Anyone who pays a tax deserved a tax break. Those below the poverty level did not pay income taxes to begin with so it is impossible for them to receive a tax break on income.
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    Ya, but do you believe that the poor making more than 5.25 per hour and spending more in the american economy, will help stimulate the economy because of their increased spending power, and increase revenues in Sales tax from their purchases?
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    A summation of who earns from the article:
    Here are a few important characteristics of the teenagers and young adults who earn the minimum wage or less:

    Fully 67 percent work part-time jobs.
    Their average family income is $64,000 per year.
    Only 17 percent live at or below the poverty line, while 65 percent enjoy family incomes over twice the poverty line.[5]
    They have less education than the population as a whole. Fully 36 percent have not completed high school, and 21 percent have only a high school degree. Another 37 percent have taken college courses but do not yet have a bachelorĂ¢â‚¬â„¢s degree; many of these are college students working part-time while in school.
    Fully 65 percent are women.
    Only 5 percent are married.

    I have two issues with this "study" by the Heritage Foundation, the average family income is $64,000 is not qualified, which makes me suspect of the findings. How do they know this? What is their source? I could say the average family income is $32,000, they need to cite their source. Is this a fluff statistic??

    The second issue is 65% are women, is that a problem for anyone? Is there a glass ceiling for minimum wage earners.

    I find the whole minimum wage thing concerning, as what the hell can you do with earning $206 per week, ft for minimum wage, the reality is that it may be framed as students, but step and look at the big picture. There seems to be a preponderance of women who are not benefitting from this booming economy.
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    For purposes of truth in advertising, you ought to have mentioned that the Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank. The article reveals its conservative thinking in its conclusion when it implies that a minimum wage increase can't be justified because only 20% of minimum-wage earners are below the poverty line. So, the conservative position appears to be: No to government aid. No to minimum wage increases. Let's pretend that the poverty threshold ($19,350 for a family of four) is reasonable, and then screw the one in five people whose families who might earn over $19,350 is the minimum wage was increased. Not surprisingly, the article embraces the thinking of avaricious conservatives.
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    I've been saying it for years... poor people just aren't paying their fair share and I am getting sick and tired of it.
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    All right, I'm convinced. Poor people are poorer than rich people, and you have the data to prove it.
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    Actually the poor are getting money from the Rich. Somehow, somewhere they came up with the "Earned Income Tax Credit" which gives tax rebates to the poor in EXCESS OF THE AMOUNT OF TAX THEY ACTUALLY PAID!!!!!!!!!!

    The rest of the world calls this "wealth redistribution" or by it's more common name, "socialism".

    I earned minimum wage, then I worked hard and got a raise, and then I worked harder and learned a new skill and made even more money, then I took that money that I made and instead of spending it on women and booze, saved it, and used it to pay for college, which once again assisted me in learning even more skills and in turn a larger salary.....and so on, and so on......

    I don't care how you start in this country, if you are willing to wrok and work hard, you will be sucessful, in spite of the liberals!
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    What would be the poor people's "fair share," Qui Gon, and who would determine it?

    And what is the rich people's "fair share"? What criteria would you employ to determine that?
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    Ted, so I guess you're saying that the poor have only themselves to blame for being poor? They're just too lazy or too stupid to be rich?

    This attitude is one of many reasons that the Republicans do not get more than 10% of the minority vote. It's also one of the reasons Dubya felt it necessary to add the word "compassionate" to Conservative.

    As I remember, Marie Antoinette had a more colorful way of saying essentially the same thing. When told that the poor didn't have enough bread to eat, she said, "Well, let them eat cake."
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    PatsFaninMaine, you say, "Anyone who paid taxes deserved a tax break."

    Close, but no cigar.

    The correct language would be, "Anyone who paid taxes wanted a tax break."
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    Are you assuming that poor people stay poor, because they spend money on women and booze. How about single moms?? Oh I forgot, they go out to see male strippers.

    I think you seriously beg the question, and do not come close to understanding the "culture" of poverty. Next time you are in Wal Mart look in the eyes of the cashiers, they don't look happy to me and are not glad for the wonderful opportunity to earn the minimum. Every would welcome the opportunity to earn more, but not everyone has the opportunity to accomplish this goal.
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    #75 Jersey

    Look at the FEMA credit card reciepts and tell me again that I'm wrong!
    People are poor because they choose to be poor!

    Once again who made them have children out of wedlock? I didn't
    Who made them drop out of school? I didn't
    WHo made sure that they got a piss poor education? -well that's the democrats fault, so I won't blame them for that.

    Everyone knows someone who is constantly broke, and regardless of their race, eduction, et al, it usually boils down to poor life choices.
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    The only person I was accusing of spending money on women and booze was myself! I see the liberal cry against Wal-Mart! I'm sorry I don't usually look into the eyes of my cashier, depending on cup size I might be looking elsewhere, but that's about it. Last I checked Wal-Mart does not actually chain their employees to the store, and I believe they can actually quit if they don't like it! To say that not everyone can elevate themsleves above a minmum wage job is lunacy! I think even Wal-Mart hands out both raises and promotions! In the immortal words of Judge Smails, "The world needs ditch diggers too!"
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    "People are poor because they choose to be poor!" -- FreeTedWilliams.

    Know any poor people, Ted? Never mind. I already know the answer.

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