Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by IcyPatriot, Jul 2, 2006.
Great article. Why does the press try to constantly try to denigrate our troops?
Why try make terrorist into sympathetic figures?
Because they hate Bush.
If Fonda Kerry were running the war they would all be joining the Army.
Hollywood would be selling "War Bonds"
"Thats Right Harry" :rocker:
Who cares about the soldiers??
Not George Bush.
When asked to comment about the 2,500 dead American boys, George Bush's spokesman Tony Snow shrug and said, "It's just a number."
If the man who sent the 2,500 dead American boys to their death consider these dead soldiers as mere statistics, it shouldn't be a surprise that the soldiers feel that nobody cares about them.
Sorry fool, you are the one brainwashed by left wing websites and idiots on talk radio, like that fool Ed Shultz. You need to wake up and see what you and your kind is doing to this country, tearing it apart for political gain. You and your kind is the ones always mentioning blue and red. This is the UNITED States of America, not the red and blue DIVIDED states of America that you try to convince everyone of. Your buddies the liberal elitists could not believe that such a simpleton could beat 2 stuffed shirts like he did, now it is thier sole goal to tear us down, and you are a pawn and they are playing you well, what a sucker you are.
mikey is a fa king liar, never seen that coming
It's the president's action that are hurting this country.....
The President has met with many of the families, inprivate rrahter than making a specitale or photo op out of it. That will be hard for many to understand. You may not like him or his policies, but he is a decent man.
Yeah it was a stupid joke(BTW, happened over 2 years ago), that doesn't mean what we are trying to accomplish in Iraq is wrong. Why are you bringing that up now? Are you trying to unite everyone?
Have you heard what has come out of the mouths of democrats?
I don't like bloggers, but this one pretty much nailed it!
Do you have a link or are you just speculating again.
That was a good article FBN, sums up alot of what I feel about posts in here. People adamantly say they support the troops but are the first ones in line to slander them in order to point out the bad of the adminstration.
You're wasting your breath posting it, no one listens to anyone else in here. How can we talk when 9 out of 10 believe "It's my own point of view and your stupid for thinking otherwise." Everything is dismissed as party talking points, neo-conservatism, overt liberalism, etc, etc.
Anyway, thanks for posting the article I enjoyed reading it.
I think Bush is a decent man, although I disagree with 90% of his policies.
But he is a man who started a war and sent our soldiers into danger. His opponents say bring the soldiers home.
So who is most concerned about their lives--those who want them fighting a war or those who want them home?
Frankly, I think it is despicable for some to claim that Bush's opponents don't care about the soldiers. They have great respect for the soldiers who are risking their lives in the service of the country. I certainly feel that way and so does every other Liberal I know. It is annoying, even mystifying, to be accused of feelings you don't have.
My argument is not with the men in uniform. My argument is with the men in business suits. Is this too subtle to grasp?
The Right complains that the Left is dividing the country. But it is the Left's country exactly as much as it is the Right's.
There is nothing anti-American about criticizing or opposing the President. George Bush is not America. He is the caretaker of the government. He'll be gone in two years.
America is Right and Left, past and future Presidents, all who have fought to make us a free nation and a democracy, both in wars and in politics. It is all who have gone before us and all who will come afterward.
It is the duty of any American with convictions about the future of the country to make his or her views known. It is their duty to speak out especially if they believe the current administration--any current administration--has embarked on a course of action that could weaken us or do us damage. Our DUTY. If we keep quiet while a President steers America into the rocks, we are not acting as responsible citizens.
We should start with the realization that we all want America to succeed and prosper, in peace. It is when we lose sight of this that polarization and division begins.
The name-calling, the accusations, the stereotyping, the selective deafness, the contempt-by-slogan, the open hostility must stop. Otherwise, we won't need the terrorists to destroy us. We will do it ourselves.
Is there anyone on the Right in this forum who's willing to meet me halfway, who's willing to listen and consider courses of actions on their merits, not their politics? If there is, I pledge to offer you the same courtesy.
Mainefan, that was one the best posts in here ever.
I'll listen. What do you suggest?
No I don't BS like many here:
First via Marine Corp Newsroom from Marineparents.com
from US News and World Report:
What the hell does Cindy have to do with this. He has met with families of soldiers before and after Sheehan.
Try to folow the thread I was asked by scout about my asertation that Bush meets privatly with the famikies of slain soldiers. I provided links, Sheehan is/was irrelevant to the point.
bmf31c, I would start with three suggestions:
First, let's stop indulging ourselves--for that's what we're doing--by name-calling. Saying that posters (or politicians) are evil, stupid, unpatriotic, blind, etc. rarely results in agreement. This kind of emotional flag-waving just emphasizes differences.
Second, let's try to be logical in our arguments, rather than emotional. Let's give reasons for our suggestions or our disagreements.
Finally, when someone on the opposite side makes a sensible or interesting point, let's admit it. This shows an open mind and identifies common ground.
I make these suggestions hopefully...can we do it?
It sounds good..but it's trench warfare. No one is going to come to the middle. Trying to have a sensible conversation in here is all but impossible. All of the one's I had, have been via PM.
To everyone else...prove me wrong.
#1)What do you suggest, we should do in iraq?
#2)When will the iraq military and police be able to controll the violence on their own?
#3) And if the iraqi's are able to controll the violence, what to do with the U.S. troops?
I'm not exactly sure how what I said turned into a series of questions for me but:
1. What specifically do you mean? Stay/Go. If so, I would continue on with the plans set forth by GEN Casey he has a firm plan. Letting the military control the situation seems alot smarter to me than politicians or the press.
2. I cannot see in the future so it's not possible to answer. When will there be no hungry or homeless in the United States?
3. Send them majority home. You have to face facts, there will be permanent bases in Iraq. Probably an Air Base at the minimum.
#1)I would do the same, and hope one day iraq will tackle that job.
#2)It was an honest question, I was looking for an honest ''quess''
#3)I was figuring they would be redeployed to the gwot.( I already quessed that the troops will have a permanent base in iraq.
#2 is going to depend on how long the Iraqi people allow the thugs to continue the guerilla war. The majority of the people will either side with the thugs and chase the US out OR they will revolt against the thugs. There are many, many sections of Iraq that the people are completely content with the US presence while in contrast there are a few pockets of heavy violence.
You can see for yourself, Baghdad and Anbar are the problems. None of the media outlets talk about any of the other areas. Why? Nothing newsworthy...only good stuff happening there.
I know it was two years ago, not all dem's are making a joke about soldiers, I know I haven't.
I read a bit of that blog. Guns, I have them and use them, I don't wan't the gov't to touch my guns, not all democrats are for gun controll, Me included.
The religion issue, Why does the gov't have to push a religion, isn't that the churches job? Leave england for religion reasons and here we are, all over again on this issue.
Political commentary is not about uniting , it's about being aware of all the political issues. Freedom of religion, freedom of press, and freedom of free speech.
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