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Which of these records will last LONGEST?

Poll closed Sep 2, 2008.
  1. 75 team touchdowns

    2 vote(s)
    4.5%
  2. 589 points

    3 vote(s)
    6.8%
  3. 19 consecutive RS wins

    12 vote(s)
    27.3%
  4. Brady's 50 TD passes

    10 vote(s)
    22.7%
  5. Moss' 23 TD receptions

    9 vote(s)
    20.5%
  6. Gostkowski's perfect 74/74 on PATs

    8 vote(s)
    18.2%
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  1. ctpatsfan77

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    Now that they've updated the online record book, figured I'd ask . . .

    • 75 team touchdowns
    • 589 team points
    • 19 consecutive RS wins
    • Brady's 50 TD passes
    • Moss' 23 TD catches
    • Gostkowski's perfect 74/74 on PATs
     
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    I'm going to go out on a limb and pick the kicker. That record is contingent first on the team first scoring that many touchdowns. After that all the xps still have to be made. Eh...why not?

    RS wins should be broken on Sept. 7. and I could see another QB throwing for that many TDs in the near future.
     
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    19 consecutive regular wins will be broken a little after 4pm on September 7th.

    Personally out of all those records the Moss one is still the one that amazes me the most and the one I don't see being beat any time soon. Even though the former record was only one less and done in less time I still find it an amazingly tough thing to accomplish.
     
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    OK . . . I should have clarified this: I'm referring to the next time a team compiles 19 RS wins, regardless of how far the Pats' current streak goes.
     
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    I dont know if its too late to add a choice to the poll, but why not throw in most different players to score in a season at 23(?) or whatever it was when Wilson ran in that INT in week 16....
     
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    Ah, should have assumed that.
     
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    I went with the Total Points. However I think the record that may not be broken in our lifetimes is the Regular Season winning streak wherever it ends up. I expect it to get to at least 23 and although that's not part of what you're asking I expect that to stand for a very long time - whatever number we end up setting it at.
     
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    The biggest thing I take from watching this team for years is that records are made to be broken. All these "little" records dont amount to much, put together in a greater context WITH SUPER BOWLS they do, but not by themselves.
     
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    Well said re the 20 wins!!!
     
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    I voted for Ghost's record because I think that luck (weather, slick ball, bad spot, poor footing) played a greater part in that record than any of the others. Sure, every record has a bit of luck in it (officiating, weird plays--oh god, like trapping the ball on your helmet with a potential HOF Defender on your back...), but not missing a single PAT means that three guys (snapper, holder, kicker) performed flawlessly 74 straight times in a single season, whatever the weather, whatever the condition of the ball, whatever the footing. That's got my vote.
     
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    I voted for the kicker as well. To beat that record, a team first has to score 75 or more TDs, attempt extra points on 75 or more of those TDs, and then convert all those extra point flawlessly.

    Not going to happen in our lifetimes.
     
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    One point about this--the hard part is not doing it flawlessly. After all, Rian Lindell has not missed an XP attempt in eight seasons with the Bills (248/248). The hard part is that it has to be done 75 times in a season. :) [For comparison, Lindell's season best is 45/45; the previous record for perfection was Jeff Wilkins' 64/64, and for PATs made/attempted was Uwe von Schamann's 66/70.]
     
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    For every time he kicks one out of 60 or 65 xtra points this upcoming season, they should tell Ghost to hit it like its a 47 yard field goal. Then they can have a camera tech plot out it trajectory and give BB stats on Ghosts percentage from 47 yards. Then there is a track record for a decision in week 19.
     
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    But where will the camera be located...?
     
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    Thanks. Lindell's is a remarkable record. I checked a usually reliable NFL reference source and only two retired kickers made 100% of their career PAT attempts. Tommy Brooker, who played with the Dallas Texans and Kansas City Chiefs from 1962--66 (149/149 with a high of 46/46) and Paul Edinger of Da Bears and Vikings from 2000--2005 (164/164 with a high of 34/34).

    I honestly don't know whether it's harder to make 74 consecutive in a single season or 248 consecutive over eight seasons, and I guess the only folks who can give an authoratative answer to that question are actual NFL kickers. But each record is remarkable.

    Gary Anderson made 820 of 827, but his best consecutive years string was five from 1996 to 2000. However, in 1998, not only did he make 59 of 59 PAT attempts but he went 35 for 35 in FG's, for a perfect kick string of 94 for 94! Ghost actually missed three of his FG attempts last year, going 31 for 34, so his overall record was "only" 106/109. So, Anderson's 94 for 94 is probably the best year that any NFL PAT or FG kicker ever had. A contrarian might observe that Anderson set that mark playing an assured 50% of his games in a Dome (Minn), which makes Lindell's accomplishment in Buffalo all the more remarkable. However, Anderson also had to kick in Lambeau and Soldiers Field that year.

    Jason Elam, who has made 601 of 604 career PAT attempts, made 100% of his kicks for eight seasons between 1994 and 2001, but only played in 13 games in 2000.
     
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    Thats some good info. I watched a college game back when the penalty yardage was marked off on the Xtra point instead of the following kickoff. Anyway, FSU got 2 personal fouls for celebration and mocking and the poor kid had to kick a 45 yard extra point. can you imagine if any of those aforementioned kickers had a streak on the line and ran into that? Totally unfair.
     
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