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  1. NENGFAN

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    Do you think that this 4th and 2 move by BB might make him more legendary than he already is? I think so. I know he lost the game but we all know that Faulk pretty much got the 1st down. Thing is that is there any other coach in the league that would have the guts to do this...nope. BB is alone here - for better or for worse. But in the end of the day - I do believe that he will get a certain amount of respect and also - like we are seeing now - alot of analysts are pointing out it was the right move. No other coach would have done it except for BB as he is not afraid of the consequences. He has the guts to go for it and live by his decisions.

    Come what may...I think whenever a team is going to go for it on 4th down - especially in circumstances like last night - it should be known as the "Belichek" move....
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    I don't know which thread to say this, so I'll say it here.

    Initially last night I was upset, I imagine everyone was after "the play" didn't work. But I really admire Bill for putting himself on the line. He's the one who has to stand up and defend "his loss". He could have punted and if we lost it would have been on Butler or Meriweather or Mayo. Bill would have said the usual "we need to coach better, we need to play better" but it would be the players who everyone doubted. Today no-one is questioning Faulk. Or Brady. It's all Bill - and deservedly but he chose to put himself on the line and I can't help but admire it.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    When all is said and done ...

    ... a lot more is said than done.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    Yup - I agree 100%. Bill knew it would fall on him and he did what he felt was right for the team - not himself. If he punted and they scored - he would be regretting not going for it on 4th and 2. In retrospect, even after losing - I think it was the right call.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    Nicely put.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    well said. I really admire BB for what he did too, and while I'm in the minority, I think it was a great call. He might have ignited a fire inside those defensive players to rally behind him for the scrutiny he's likely gonna face for the rest of this season/career? Since the plan backfired this decision turns out to be a cry to his defense to do their job and rise up to the occasion.
     
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    I didn't know what thread to put this and didnt want to make a thread about it


    Does anyone have the "after-shock" affect of SB42 or 2006 AFCCG. This is a regular season game in a long time I have the depressing gut feeling of a playoff loss.

    Anyone else have this :confused:
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    LOL.

    That's great!:D
     
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    He's the #1 searched item on yahoo today.

    One of my friends who despises the Patriots and Boston fans more than anything put in his status update that last night is an example of why he can't ever bring himself to hate Belichick.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    Felt this all along, BB put his butt on the line, did not blame anyone else.. the buck stops with him and he takes the heat..

    He did not whine about a bad spot by the refs...

    Really believe that Faulk can get two yards on a safety 90% of the time... last night was the 10%.... and even though most of us thought he got it, the refs saw it differently...
     
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    That's what I mean....I see alot of people coming to his defense. In the end I think he will have a couple of more fans than he did before this.
     
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    I don't know if it will make him more legendary. However, given the incredible stupidity of the move, it will make him seem more 'human', and that helps when it comes to stories about great people. It's always more endearing when we see that they screw up just as badly as everyone else.
     
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    I think that was already established in SB42 going for it on 4th and 12 rather than kicking a 48 yard FG
     
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    How can you honestly say that the move was "incredibly stupid"? What if Faulk gets a good spot and it's a 1st down? You'd be saying BB is a genius. Do I agree with the call to go for it? No, I would have punted. But, I am going to back up BB. I can completely see his reasoning for going for it. Dont say it was an "incredibly stupid" move because if they converted you'd be saying it was one of the best calls of his career.
     
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    Re: When all is said and done.....

    Here's the way I see it after calming down. I can see the logic in what he did, although I still don't agree with it and I couldn't believe what I was seeing at the time. But what it says to me is that we are not an elite team. Elite teams don't find themselves in a position where they have to take a desparate gamble like BB did. The defense has been letting us down in big games for several years now. I don't have to list the games - you know what they are. We are one Freeney and one Mathis away from being an elite team, perhaps, a couple of elite pash rushers, or even above average ones, would put this team over the top. But right now and for the past several years we haven't been. When we were winning Super Bowls we could always count on the D to make the big FENCE. Now we can pretty much count on them to give the game away.
     
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