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I see Jackson starting the year on the PUP and then depending on injuries, we'll see if he is activated or IR'ed.

Similar with Brown, I see him coming back if injuries hit the position. Sort of a super street Free Agent.

NT remains very thin for the Pats. Even with a huge year #2 leap, I don't see LeKevin having a chance. Wright can't possibly hold up for more than spot duty in there. The best option may be moving Warren inside and starting Green at DE. I hope Warren knows how to protect those knees.

However I do exspect injuries in the secondary again this year. And I am hoping Seymour can finally stay healthy for a full season. I know he receives a lot of attention, but it's been quite a while since I've seen him healthy.
 
Rodney, as much as I love him, is a lock to get injured.


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Had to beat Nut to it.
 
Brady's arm falls off throwing so much to The Trinity. Goes on IR. Pats go 2-14.

You'll be sh!tfaced if that DOES happen ;)
 
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What was that TV commercial where the actors would notify supervisors and co-workers ahead of time that they would be involved in an accident that would cause them to miss work in the near future? Injuries are a given, rather than predict who will be injured, we just need to return to the depth analysis that has been part of the normal off-season speculation.

Entering into Training Camp:

QB: the Pats have their franchise QB, an inexperienced back-up who will be fun to watch in Pre-Season, a UDFA rookie, and a FA Veteran on unpaid retainer. As noted above, folks are already panicking over the prospective loss of Drew Bledsoe, erm Tom Brady.

RB: the Pats have a rehabbing feature back, a core trio of multi-purpose veterans, and a trio of novice players. At the moment, San Diego, Dallas, Baltimore, Denver, Houston, Buffalo, Jacksonville, and Atlanta are the only teams at this point of the season who might have two backs who could carry the load as feature backs - and only San Diego would seem to have a surefire feature duo.

WR: the Pats depth at WR has people greatly perplexed, or so I gather from the one or two threads that have touched on the subject.

TE: the Pats have an interesting talent pool that can be shuffled around to accomplish a broad scope within the play book.

LT: the Pats have two experienced LTs, a reserve who took a few LT reps last season, one rookie, and a potential All-Pro LG who can make the move outside.

RT: the Pats have two returning starters from last season, a veteran reserve, and two rookies.

LG: the Pats have three tiers of veteran depth and then they get into the rookies and first year guys.

RG: the Pats have three tiers of veteran depth and then they get into the rookies and first year guys.

C: the Pats have three tiers of veteran depth and then they get into the rookies and first year guys.

K: the Pats are a little thin here.

LS: the Pats have a savvy veteran and several college experienced reserves.

NT: the Pats have their feature player, a proven reserve, a first year player and a rookie who may all play the position differently, but offer the coaches a solid core to work with. That doesn't include the DE pool which has three veterans who have played the position and can rotate in within the scope of the game plan.

RDE: the Pats have an All-Pro, a proven reserve/third down specialist, another solid reserve, a two year Practice Squad veteran, and two rookies.

LDE: the Pats have a potential All-Pro, two solid reserves, a two year Practice Squad veteran, and two rookies.

ROLB: the Pats have three top level veterans who can fill this slot and one or two rookies.

LOLB: the Pats have three top level veterans who can fill this slot, one first year player, and a pool of rookies.

SILB: the Pats have three top level veterans who can fill this slot, and maybe one rookie.

WILB: the Pats have three top level veterans who can fill this slot, a developmental veteran who may be ready to take the next step, and a pool of first year and rookie players.

LCB: the Pats have two veteran starters, two veteran reserves, and a pool of first year players and rookies.

RCB: the Pats have three veteran starters, one veteran reserve, and a pool of first year players and rookies.

{Nickel Back}: the Pats have some veteran and younger players who can fill this vital role.

SS: the Pats have three veteran starters, one veteran reserve, and a pool of DBs who may or may not be able to fill-in.

FS: the Pats have two veteran starters and a pool of DBs who may or may not be able to fill-in.

P: the Pats have a veteran and two rookies.

So where do the Pats have the biggest depth questions entering Training Camp?

Greatest concern: QB
Next tier concerns: RB, NT, LCB, SS
Areas where younger players stepping up would really be sweet: LT, RT, LB, RCB/NB, DE
Fat City: TE, G/C, FS, P, LS, WR

Time to panic? Next off-season.
 
eugene wilson will get hurt, because he's not supposed to be playing safety. he's not built for it. neither is meriweather.

This is completely bogus. Wilson missed ONE game in his first three seasons and he was playing safety the entire time.

Ed Reed is about the same size as Wilson and Meriweather and has played in every game in 4 out of 5 seasons. You don't need great size to play free safety. Don't confuse free safety with strong safety. Free safeties are closer to cornerbacks whereas strong safeties are closer to linebackers.
 
That the depth of this team will be severely tested as this will probably be one of the oldest teams in the NFL.
 
That the depth of this team will be severely tested as this will probably be one of the oldest teams in the NFL.

The depth of this team is always tested even when they're one of the youngest in the NFL.

And I think they'll be in the middle of the bottom half in terms of age.
 
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Given the rough and tough style of play the Patriots use, injuries are going to be a serious problem. Ideally, nobody will get hurt, but Belichick's system is designed to provide maximum roster depth. For every Vince Wilfork there is a Mike Wright, for every Lawrence Maroney there is a Sammy Morris.

And as much as people worry about the quarterback situation, consider that for every Phil Simms there is a Jeff Hostetler. Even if Tom Brady goes down, I think Matt Cassel or Vinny Testaverde will prove capable. Not spectacular, but capable.

Injuries have befallen the Patiots every year and 2007 will be no different. Even in the worst case scenario I still think New England has the talent, toughness, and preparation to win the league championship. The only loss that can threaten this team is that of urgency. All the other pieces are already in place.
 
The key is nagging injuries vs. IR.

I think we can deal with the nagging stuff, guys in one week, out the next, back the following week etc. It's the IR'd players and the ensuing erosion of depth that makes it really hard to win.

As for specifics, it is a virtual certainty Seau will end up on IR. I wouldn't bet my lunch money on Rodney staying completely healthy either although I think he's due for some good health.
 
Wait... someone got injured in the gut?
 
The depth of this team is always tested even when they're one of the youngest in the NFL.

When have the Patriots ever been one of the youngest teams in the NFL??
And I think they'll be in the middle of the bottom half in terms of age.
Not with 16 players (that's not including Troy Brown and Vinny Testaverde) who will be at least 30 years old when the season starts. The Patriots will be one of the oldest teams in the NFL when the season starts.
 
When have the Patriots ever been one of the youngest teams in the NFL??

Last year I think I saw a list where they were in the top five of youngest teams. But that is just going off of memory so I could be wrong.

And if you're suggesting that the age of the team has anything to do with it's propensity for injuries then I will have to strongly disagree.

When you look at the injuries that have occured to this team over the past few years, I can name plenty that happened to young players-- Laurence Maroney, Richard Seymour, Matt Light, Dan Koppen, Deion Branch, Eugene Wilson, Randall Gay, Nick Kazcur, Tom Brady, Daniel Graham, Mel Mitchell, Garrett Mills, and Rosevelt Colvin. Injuries have happened to both the young and old.

The Patriots are usually near the top in terms of the number of players over 30 (they had 16 in 2004) but they do a good job of mixing that in with younger players. None of their offensive linemen, defensive linemen, or wide receivers are over 30 (not including Troy Brown,)
 
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Last year I think I saw a list where they were in the top five of youngest teams. But that is just going off of memory so I could be wrong.
See
http://www.patscap.com/youngtallshort.pdf

While injuries can happen to any player, young or old, I think that it takes longer for an older player to recover and to return to 100%. I happen to think that older players are more prone to injuries. IIRC, the 2004 Patriots set a record in overcoming injuries. IMO, if the 2007 Patriots face the same amount of injuries, (especiially if the injuries are to their linebackers) they will not win the Super Bowl as did the 2004 Patriots.
 
See
http://www.patscap.com/youngtallshort.pdf

While injuries can happen to any player, young or old, I think that it takes longer for an older player to recover and to return to 100%. I happen to think that older players are more prone to injuries. IIRC, the 2004 Patriots set a record in overcoming injuries. IMO, if the 2007 Patriots face the same amount of injuries, (especiially if the injuries are to their linebackers) they will not win the Super Bowl as did the 2004 Patriots.

Wasn't it the 2003 squad that set the record (man-games lost to injury), and didn't it have Willie McGinest, Roman Phifer, Anthony Pleasant, Bobby Hamilton, Rick Lyle, Jerod Cherry, JJ Stokes, Fred McCrary, Ty Poole, Ty Law, Rodney Harrison, Troy Brown, Larry Centers, Antowain Smith, David Patten, Christian Fauria, Ted Johnson, Ted Washington, Don Davis etc? That was a very veteran group. If the Pats have similar injuries and fail to win the Sb it will be because the Pats run of dominance has caused an intellectual revolution among competitors, less effective coaching by the Pats, bad chemistry or poor luck. Not the veteran make-up of the team.
 
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