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  1. Red_Sox_Fan

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    * Celtics 16 NBA Championships. 8 in a row from 1959-1966.

    * Red Sox great comeback from a record deficit 0-3 to 4-3 and move on to winning championship

    * And (no jinx intended), our dream run to continue Pats 19-0

    No doubt we have a lot to be proud of but lets here it.
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    well, winning 4 straight baseball games is much easier than 19 straight FB games, so toss the sox out...

    hard to argue against 8 straight championships of the C's, but remember it was a smaller league then...

    which will happen next? a 19-0 NFL season, or 8 cons NBA champs? i think neither will ever happen again... probably the 19-0 would happen before 8 straight champs... but if we went back to the small NBA league of that time, then maybe the 8 champs would happen first.
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    The Sox' comeback from 0-3 had never been done before - by anyone. As the fan with the poster implored them in game 4 of that series, "Make history or we're history!", and that is indeed what they did.

    Credit where credit due, huh?
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    ill give credit, im a sox fan... but there is absolutely no comparision... winning 4 straight in BB is easy, winning 19 in FB is impossible. winning 8 champs in the nba is NOW impossible.

    you WILL see 4 straight wins in BB again... you will NEVER see 19-0, or 8 straight NBA champs again.
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    Then we can expect this type of comeback in playoffs and World Series to be common events from here on in?
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    lets put this into perspective...winning 4 baseball games is easier than winning 19 football games. period.

    however, lets also remember this was 4 games against the yankees in the ALCS in the wake of what happened in 2003 with aaron f'ing boone and 86 years etc. Yes. we will see 4 straight baseball wins, but i doubt we willl ever see 4 straight sox wins over yankees in an ALCS. ever.

    The celebration of the 2004 RedSox world series will massively overshadow a Pats SB this year, because of history and the broad audience of the sox. For me, I would love to see the Pats win every year. I love the dominance of BB/TB etc. I root for that.

    anyway..going fishing tomorrow and my alarm is set at 5AM and I am drunk...later
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    How about adding the fact that the Patriots have already won 3 SBs in 5 years to that list.

    When it comes to 'Big' accomplishments in the history of this town I'd say the Patriots are firmly entrenched behind the Celtics only at this point regardless of what happens on Sunday.
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    Oh god I really seriously hate you so much and if you show up to the Friday meet I will slap you until my boyfriend Hector manages to talk me down.
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    "Make history or we're history". I like that. Red Sox pulled of the greatest come back when it mattered most. Almost same again this year against Cleveland. BUT, I must admit, 19-0 will be SPECIAL. Yes there is 13-0 before....but this day and age, it will be SPECIAL OF ALL TIME. Pats had tough draw, nevertheless.
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    #61 Jersey

    Please commit suicide as soon as possible.
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    This is a dated and ignorant position from a colts fan who probably thinks that St Louis is the big city.
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    looks like that....boot the rookie off
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    Every year, a team goes 14-2 and occasionally a team goes 15-1.

    It would be a stretch to say that you don't think it will ever happen again. Especially since Brady is only 30.
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    It would be still THE greatest until we have even bigger conference.
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    Stop Posting. Kill Yourself.
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    the red sox were GREAT that year... they won 4 games in a row when they had to... i love the red sox... i love ortiz... but please... 4 baseball games is no comparison to an nfl team going 19-0 (which will never happen again)... you will see a lot of 4-game win streaks in MLB (tons?).... you will NEVER, EVER see a 19 game win streak in the NFL.
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    what would be?
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    Especially since a playoff series in baseball is roughly equivalent to one playoff game in football. The analogy is bad because you're talking about the entirety of the Pats season v. an isolated series comeback. It would be more comparable to the Pats pulling off the greatest comeback ever in the AFCCG. Not to mention the fact that "Boston is a baseball town" isn't a very good reason why A is better than B.
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    lol... say that again after you try to buy a ticket to either event, chump.
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    boston may be a (small) baseball town, but new england is a football region... plain and simple... boston doesnt have a football team, never will... new england, a multi-state region does... and by FAR, the biggest sporting team in NEW ENGLAND is the patriots... just check out ticket prices relative to face price.

    wildo, you are right.
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    I would not see Red Sox come back as just 4 game win. Its a great comeback when it mattered. 19-0 and a bunch of other records....that's probably bigger.
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    check the ratings my friend pats blow the sox of the map in head to heads
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    Not really a fair comparison, since football is played once a week.

    I think we're a little premature in jumping down his throat for saying Boston is a baseball town. I'm not sure he isn't right, to a certain extent. Before the Patriots recent run of success, there wouldn't have been any question in my mind that the Red Sox were more popular than the Patriots (yes, in all of New England). And the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004 was (to me) without a doubt the biggest sports story in the region this decade (maybe ever).

    Furthermore, New England may be a Patriots region, but it is by no means a football region. For example, football isn't just the NFL, and I can't really think of a single region in the country where college football is less of a blip on the radar than New England.

    I love the Patriots and the Red Sox pretty much equally, but you'd have a VERY hard time convincing me that if you stripped away all the success from both teams (thus removing the bandwagon fans) that there are more "lifelong" Patriots fans in New England than there are "lifelong" Red Sox fans.
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    not in the playoffs it isnt. thats why until the 04 sox did it. it had never been done before in the 100 year history of baseball .so toss the sox back in .
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    As for the issue of 19-0 versus The Comeback. I would agree with the consensus that 19-0 is harder to pull off, but I think you guys are underrating what a large accomplishment coming back from 0-3 was.

    Sure, winning four in a row is (comparatively) easy, but doing it against a playoff team in a 7-game series is an entirely different animal than doing it during the regular season. Additionally, playing 4 consecutive "must-wins" in the playoffs is , whether we want to admit it or not, more pressure (on the basis of one season) than trying to go undefeated, since the Patriots could have lost a game or two this year and not been in any different a position relative to the playoffs.

    Again, I agree that ultimately 19-0 is a greater accomplishment, but some of you implied that what the Red Sox did wasn't monumental, and that's ridiculous. If it wasn't monumental, someone else (in any sport) would have done it before.
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    they were the Boston patriots before they were newengland patriots .and last time i checked in o1 o3 and o4 all the SB parades were held in Boston. don't let the name fool you .Boston has and always will have a football team .all of new England loves the sox also .they aren't as you put it a small baseball town .that's comical .
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    Um, NE won more than 19 straight in 2003-2004. If you want to entirely remove context from the Sox argument I can do so for your football one.
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    You're exaggerating for effect here. I actually agreed with you that I think it's still a Sox town first, but the Patriots are more ingrained into people's psyche in NE than you're giving credit for.

    The bandwagoners fall off if any team goes into the pits, that's sports today.
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    Wow, does the Nielsen survey folks know about your friends. If your friends and relatives have the heart beat of New England, AC Nielsen could save millions and just use their opinions. You are really lucky to have such informed, and influential friends and relatives......

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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    Well then your friends and relatives are ignorant, and you too if you buy what they're saying and expecting us to buy it as well. Bottom line. You can make the argument that Boston is a baseball town, but to say it's not even close is a dumb statement to make.
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