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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    Other than your own, of course.

    My little section of Virginia doesn't have much on the ballot. Three candidates running for congress - each one worse than the other. It's a "lesser of whatever evil" kind of race.

    I suppose I'm most interested in what happens in the following races:

    Sharon Angle/Harry Reid
    Christine O'Donnell/Chris Coons
    Carly Fiorina/Barbara Boxer
    Lisa Murkowski/Joe Miller/Scott McAdams
    Carl Paladino/Andrew Cuomo
    Jerry Brown/Meg Whitman
    Richard Blumenthal/Linda McMahon
    Rubio/Crist/Meeks
    Toomy/Sestak
    Rand Paul/Jack Conway

    Any others?
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    I want Patrick to lose here in Massachusetts, and Reid to be unemployed in Nevada. Those are the two I'm following. Everywhere else I hope that any, and every, establishment incumbent up for re-election loses.

    Oh, and I pray that Barney Frank goes down too. That's a long shot, but I do pray.
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    I want to see Rand Paul win!
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    Amen............
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    The Sharon "Obtuse" Angle vs Harry "the Weasel" Reid race. In a way it doesn't matter who wins. If Reid wins he keeps the "crazy old lady that lives on the dead end street" away from power. But if Angle wins it will be entertaining listening to her address the senate.
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    Not trying to get into a pi$$ing match with you here. I'm genuinely interested, though, so I have to ask.

    Do you really not care who gets elected just so long as an incumbent doesn't get re-elected? Are you that absolutely positively sure that there isn't one single incumbent, Republican or Democrat, who doesn't have one or two redeeming qualities? Don't you even care that some of the people running against the incumbents are fruit-cakes who haven't clue #1 as to what they'll actually DO if elected? That they're liars, tax cheats, frauds, and hold extremist views on a multitude of issues?

    By feeling the way you do, by saying the things you're saying, you're pretty much agreeing with Mitch McConnell - that your primary goal is not to improve the quality of American life but to take revenge upon a few individuals - and they seem to be individuals you know nothing about other than the fact that they've won last season's race.

    I don't mind you wanting to replace people whose politics you don't agree with - but shouldn't you at least care what you're replacing them with?
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    Even if you think Reid sucks, which I do, saying you should kick him out and replace him with a bat**** crazy know-nothing like Angle doesn't make much sense to me.

    Ditto Jeff Miller in Alaska.

    Ditto Ken Buck in Colorado.

    Ditto Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. Thankfully she's definitely going to lose. The other two? Not so sure.

    If you think the government is dysfunctional now, just wait until the next Congress is sworn in with these luminaries.
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    She's no bargain thats for sure but anything is better than that slinky little snake Reid.
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    Kicking The Incumbent Out:
    This President & This Congress & all of their dishonest, closed door, arrogant, grinning in your face bullsh!t has turned the whole country into feeling as though If You Are IN We Want You OUT.

    THEY WORK FOR US
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    #54 Jersey

    I'm not going to put words into his mouth, but I see anti-incumbency as a protest against the two-party system and/or the oligarchy that is forming in the American political establishment.

    They all hold mild interest for me, but I've just about given up hope that we're going to see anything interesting or politically beneficial happen in this country without substantial electoral reform.
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    Well, we have tried the "high-brows" and look where we are at. Let's give the "bat**** crazy know-nothings" a shot. Honestly, it's not gonna be any worse.

    As long as they keep voting NO to that bat**** crazy president and keep him from destroying the country, then I'm good with it. Seriously, this country is fukced if we continue on this reckless spree that we are on. Yeah, I know it started many years ago, but it's been magnified 100-fold with this clown we have now.
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    It really hasn't.

    If you truly believe that this president is "bat**** crazy" is "destroying the country," and if you really don't believe things can get any worse, than best of luck, and I suspect we'll get to see how it'll all play out.
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    It is a shame that Russ Feingold is going to lose. Probably one of the only civil libertarians left in the Senate, and he's going down to an empty suit.
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    When you hire somebody and they don't do the job you expected or wanted them to do you replace them.

    This little tale is on the same idea but involves "the race thing" of which you know I sometimes get in trouble over.
    I am amazed at how dense some well educated college people can be.

    General Motors
    I was a stupid truck driver for all of my life, one day while walking into a GM Warehouse through the front door I happened to walk alongside the Warehoue Mgr we said "hello" and then entered the front lobby, directly in front of us was "the front desk" were the receptionist sits, nobody was there, the College Grad Mgr says to me "Jesus Christ, that women spends the whole f-cking day in the ladies room" I said "fire her" he said "I can't" I said "why not" he said "she's Black" I said "hire another Black women" he never learned this basic sh!t in college, he opened his mouth and just stared at me.

    Several days later I had to return to this Warehouse there sat "another black women" the dip sh!t's in Detroit probably gave him a medal for solving that problem.

    IF THEY DON'T DO THEIR JOB THROW THEM OUT
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    I totally agree with you, i don't look at him as a typical politician.
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    He is destroying the country......... You may like the look of Europe, but I DON'T. The America dream wasn't founded on the "cradle-to-grave" entitlement model that we are following.

    Let's not be literal here. No one is saying down to "rubble" destroying. But when it comes to destroying the principals that have allowed this country to prosper over the last 200 year, yeah..... he is absolutely destroying it. You cannot be prosperous and economically insolvent. To be fair, he's had a lot of help from so-called Republicans before him.
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    I'm not choosing any race to follow more than any other. I don't want to appear racist.
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    1.) There is no cradle-to-grave entitlement model
    2.) He's not destroying any principles. He's governing based on the platform the voters elected him on.

    Given the massive ****pile Obama had to deal with upon assuming office, I think he's done a serviceable job. Given the choice between Obama and McCain... not even really close.
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    Just finished putting in my vote for Sean Bielat! Man, there is NO ONE I'd rather see lose more than Barney. But Reid and Pelosi are a close 2nd & 3rd.
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    Correction - YOU elected him on. I didn't vote for him.

    I'm not surprised you feel the way you do. I guess we'll see in a few hours whose right. The voters will certainly let us know if Obama is "governing based on the platform" they elected him on. There will be no sugar-coating it tonight.

    Surf's up ;)
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    Get your popcorn ready!! :popcorn:
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    The majority of the American voters voted for him, which is generally how presidents are selected.

    This election has very little to do with policy, and, thus, I have a hard time agreeing with your notion that this election would be a ratification of his platform. If it were, the Democrats would win easily.
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    PA-8, my district and a bellwether (?bellweather). It is occupied by a D (Patrick Murphy) who defeated the incumbent in 2006 and won reelection in 2008. This is a repeat of 2006 in a suburban district that was heavily Republican but has voted Democratic for President the last three elections. Murphy labelled himself a "Blue dog democrat" but voted with Nancy Pelosi 97% of the time...
    Polls have had it within a point of each other, one way or the other. If Mike Fitzpatrick wins handily, it could be a bad omen for D's all over. If Murphy hangs on, the Democrats might be able to stem the losses.
    This is also a district with controversy over absentee ballots where one party tried to register people and have the ballots all sent to a post office box and it was challenged in court...


    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43975.html
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    It's a general opinion I have. I couldn't possibly know every candidate, in every election. I don't know what 10% of the candidates up for election today stand for. So my opinion is a general one by default. My sentiment is that the GOP blew chunks till 2006, and the Dems have crapped some diarea on top of those chunks for the last 4 years. Therefore, it's somewhat safe to say, generally speaking of course, that any incumbent who's been in office during that time, could use a permanant vacation. So generally speaking, I hope all establishment incumbents lose. That would include people like John McLame, Vitter, Fiengold, etc.
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    I agree that employing a Donald Trump-type, "You're Fired" is a great way to "shock the world" ...of American politics anyway!
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    Florida-8 Grayson VS. Webster

    Arizona-7 Grijalva VS. McClung
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    I've met Murphy. He's a good guy, Iraq war veteran. I don't expect him to win, but the House will be worse off without him.
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    There is. We are currently running a welfare state. One where people are recieving lifelong subsidies from the government.

    If he were governing on the platform, or by way of the principles the citizens of this country expected, then he wouldn't be looking at a historical repudiation of his policies today. The fact is that the people expected a moderate, or centrist pragmatist, and instead received an ideological progressive (some might say socialist or marxist). As BB would say, it is what it is. Today's election is a direct reflection of his ideological view, and performance. He's aligned himself with the Harry Reid's, and Nancy Pelosi's of the world, and now he will pay the price. Much the same way the GOP rubber stamped George Bush during his terms, only to have the electorate eventualyl reject them all harshly.
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    That is partially correct, though it's not cradle-to-grave entitlements as the other poster stated. If you'd like to pose an argument against the social safety net, though, I am all ears. I don't think anyone is going to argue about the historical success of Social Security and Medicare.

    As for Obama's platform... we'll simply disagree about his governance. Hawkish foreign policy, government intervention necessitated by collapsing economy (which any president, Democrat or Republican, would have supported), centrist health care bill, and so on.

    Really, the amount of cognitive dissonance is frightening. People are whining on one hand about the deficit and government spending, while on the other are poised to elect the biggest deficit busters in Washington. So it goes. Not to say that Obama hasn't made mistakes or that there are many Democrats who don't deserve their seats. Because I certainly don't believe that.
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    Hawkish foreign policy? Centrist what :confused: Are we living in the same country Jack? Today is a direct repudiation of the GM bailout, the trillion stimulus bill, a horrendous healthcare bill, trillions of dollars in annual debt... The president, as well as the legislature, have looked inept, out of touch, and amateurish during their reign, and the people are letting them know about it. I just hope the GOP realizes that this isn't a vote for them. It's what it was 2 and 4 years ago, which is a vote against the other guy. Sadly, all each party has had to do the last few years, is point a finger in the other direction and say "Vote for us, cuz we're not them". Meanwhile, the citizen American taxpayer suffers.

    I think the concept of SS and MIC are good, but the proformers are unsutainable, which means it's tough to call it a success. How do you call programs that are likely to lead to a nations bankruptcy, as a success? Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to such programs. I'm merely opposed to their structure, cost, and unsustainability moving forward.

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