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What Are the Tea Party Patriots

  1. Racist White Rednecks out to ruin the country

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  2. Will be gone once Obama is out of office

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  3. American Citizens of all races and political groups tired of the B.S. of the Fed Govt

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  4. Conservatives

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  1. KDPPatsfan85

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    #24 Jersey

    Alot of people think of the Tea Party Patriots(this is what they are actually called) as:
    (A) either good for the country such as small business owners and people fed up with what the government is doing, spending their money, and willing to fight to keep their freedom.

    (B) Others think that the Tea Party Patriots are racist, white, rich, conservatives that all asembled because there is a "black president" in office.

    BUT, what are really the Tea Party Patriots??
     
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    Your poll doesn't really correspond to your post, so to clarify, I think the "tea party" will generally be gone by the next election after a Republican is elected to the white house again -- but that's not simply due to race, it's everything the right has labeled Obama as.
     
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    The immediate response is shills for the corporatists.. but the best choice is not the choice offered.

    Better question is who are the "Surprise Tea Party Patriots" who partnered with Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the "Insane Azzclown Birther Posse"????

    Who really cares about this crap, you title implies that they are some type of "patriots".. and those who are not part of this group are not. They are no more or less any more of a patriot than the rest of us.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    There aren't any pat answers, are there? Tea Party members are as varied as are Democrats - and their reasons and rationale are all different.

    Personally, and I am not making blanket statements about the entire Tea Party here, I think that, for the most part, the people who are followers are good people - fed up with what they consider "big" government and high taxes. I think they're afraid - and maybe rightfully so - I'm afraid, too, but of different things. I think they're so afraid that they turn out all the scary stuff that the Tea Party politicians promise sometimes. Or, at the very least, they don't think of the consequences. I've heard people here insist, time and time again, that The Tea Party is only about making the government smaller - and that they don't even have opinions on anything else. But the truth is, they BETTER have opinions on everything else. There's a whole lot of elected Tea Party politicians who are already hell-bent on removing a lot of things which serve a good purpose - and if they think they will not, personally, be affected by the loss of these programs, they're going to find out the hard way that they are wrong.

    I think the people who have organized The Tea Party and those who are rapidly funneling billions of dollars into it are basically self-serving, power hungry individuals - many of whom are racist and who are determined to back the nation into a corner and use their guns - or make other people use their guns, to be more to the point. Meanwhile, they will sit there and reap the spoils of a county divided.

    I believe many of them have a racial and a religious agenda and they've found a way to prey on the average Joe's fears and nightmares and use them to their own advantage.

    I do not, however, think that the "average Joe" Tea Party member really understands what will happen if they succeed. I think the average member simply is afraid and wants to blame someone, (in this case "big government") for everything which is wrong in their lives and is convinced that if we can only take away the power that the government has over us that life will once again be like it was in the 50s and 60s.

    I think many good people block out the racist/homophobic/Christian-only part of the Tea Party - unless they actively embrace it - which some of them do.
     
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    The Tea Party is the right wing of the Republican Party.

    It's a collection of racists, homophobes, vindictive people, mentally ill people (such as birthers and those who think Obama is a Muslim), selfish people, and people who blame their failures on people of color and illegal immigrants.

    It also includes social conservative/libertarian Republicans, the one legitimate element in the Tea Party.
     
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    The Tea Party has almost as many problems with the pub establishment as with the dems.
     
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    Thank goodness we have unbiased perfect liberals around to tell us which opinions are legitimate.
     
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    are yougoing to make a case for any of the other "types" he listed? ;)
     
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    Funny, sounds just like some democrats I know....y'all know the type. Deep history of blue-collar lifestyle mainly in the trades. They are not all republicans, that's for damn sure.

    We can ALWAYS count on Patters to get in his childish political jabs upon conservatives. As if they're bad Americans.

    So whether you are liberal or conservative, celebrate your values and ideals because the FACT is, neither one is on the "Right side" of morality, justice or humanity.

    The above is a fact, not an opinion. Accept it and you will find peace in the world of politics. :D
     
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    2 of the leading politicians of the Tea Party movement are Allen West and Herman Cain, if the racist premise had any validity that wouldn't be the case. They are popular because of their positions on the issues.
     
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    The Far Left Wing New Democrat Socialist Communists of America created the need for what is called "The Tea Party"

    Extreme Liberalsim gave birth to the Tea Party.

    America will never allow it's Constitution to be destroyed, NEVER.

    12 million criminals have invaded America but America will handle it.
     
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    I am rejecting his characterization. Shall we judge Obama by a church where sermons about the U.S. government creating AIDS were preached? There are crazy ideas on both sides.
     
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    The smiley face indicated tongue in cheek....


    (btw, is the notion of the US government creating AIDS really so far fetched? We know the government knowingly infected foreigners as well as US citizens, and we know the government has developed various weapons, including biological weapons.)
     
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    See the Tuskeegee Institute..
     
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    Yes. They aren't capable of anything that effective. :p

    All the evidence suggests that it is a variant of SIV.
     
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    :) We are quite good at killing, though.

    (I'm not saying the government did create it -- just that it's not so far fetched a notion, imo.)
     
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    Racism is different today than it was 50 years ago. 50 years ago, racism involved Jim Crow, KKK, segregation, denied voting rights, and workplace and school discrimination. Today, it manifests itself differently. It manifests in the false belief that our society is no longer racist, that a minority or woman has the same opportunities as a white person. You don't need to be white to believe that. You can be black, Latino, gay, a woman, or anyone else to believe that. Racism today means that you embrace false premises that allow people to suffer.

    The most blatant example of Tea Party/Libertarian racism is in terms of equal opportunities to higher education and the belief that businesses should be allowed to discriminate. The reality is that most black families are poorer than white families. Most blacks did not come from families with assets (houses, savings, etc.) because their parents or grandparents were legally discriminated against. Thus, using blacks as an example, they start off in life at a competitive disadvantage. Those disadvantages are reinforced every time we raise the cost of college, cut student loan programs, reduce funding for public schools, force public schools to hire low-cost teachers, etc. Those disadvantages would be reinforced if businesses were allowed to discriminate. While the marketplace might prevent a company like GM from discriminating, the local store in a community that feared the influx of Latinos, blacks, or gays might very well discriminate, and make those minorities feel unwelcome in their communities, and push them out. I've been in restaurants in the south with my partner, where we were seated in a dark corner, stared at, and provided with rude service. If I lived in those communities, I would not feel comfortable. I would not feel equal. We can distinguish between racist and beliefs that amount to racism, but the difference is slim. Were those Jews who worked for the Nazis, helping them develop nuclear weapons, anti-Semites? Of course. The same logic applies to people like Herman Cain and Allen West.
     
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    It is true there is discrimination in higher ed against Asians and Caucasians who must have higher test scores that Black and Latino students to be admitted to many schools. So yea there is still discrimination and it is still wrong.

    Herman Cain and Alan West aren't products of affirmative action they are men of accomplishment, who understand the real promise of America, this is deeply threathening to the lib establishment who has a vested interest in continued poverty to make voters dependent on government largess which the pols and bureaucrats get power and wealth from administering.
     
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    Allen West was the product of affirmative action, when the military started taking affirmative steps to bring about equality -- starting with Truman. West's father (according t Wikipedia) was a career military officer. Had it not been for affirmative action, he would not have risen through the ranks. The military is often cited as being a leader in affirmative action. Up until the 1950s, the military discriminated against blacks.

    Herman Cain's mother was a cleaner and father a chauffeur (according to Wikipedia). He too was in the military, which again was a leader in affirmative action, affording all its members equal opportunity. That surely helped give him an opportunity to demonstrate his abilities.

    Besides that, there have always been exceptional people who were able to overcome racism and discrimination, but not everyone is exceptional, not everyone has that kind of native intelligence or develops those kinds of broadly accepted social skills.
     
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    There exists another form of Racism in America today a form of Racism that a good liberal would rather set themselves on fire than admit it existed, Young Black Americans towards "WHITE" it's ignored and constantly trying to be covered up by the Left Wing Media, but it's there.

    Now I will be attacked for mentioning it.
     

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