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  1. Pats_2007

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    We all know the '72 Dolphins had that horrible .367 Strength of Schedule. But what Strength Scedule do the Pats have?? I've been trying to look for it but i can't find it.
     
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    Thats weird. I thought it would be around .500

    The Pats did beat 4 Division winning teams this year...and have played 5 teams with 10+ wins (possibly 6 if the Browns win next week)

    I guess playing the Dolphins and Jets 2 times a year brings it down.:mad:
     
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    Yup..
    now it's 112-128 (including NYG)

    Take out the NYJ x2 and Miami x2 and it's 104-76 .577
    Even if you just take out Miami, it goes to 110-100 .524
     
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    It's an interesting schedule, in that they have played a large number of play-off teams (Indy, Pitt, Dallas, San Diego, NY Giants, probably Cleveland, probably Washington), beating seven of the other 11 likely play-off teams, but also played Miami and the Jets twice each, real gimme wins.
     
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    Hey c'mon - is it the Patriots fault that after they humiliate other teams their opponents go into a tailspin and get into a losing funk that brings down their overall record?

    Oh, actually I guess it is.

    So be it.

    Mercury Morris better prepare himself though - he's trying to posture like the Patriots are about to join "his" club. In reality if they go 19-0 they'll be looking in the review mirror at Mercury's neighborhood, watching as Mecury insists that playing additional pre-season games puts the '72 Dolphins on par with the 2007 Patriots.
     
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    Actually, I was thinking about this earlier today (how the Pats have played more good teams than anybody, but still have a SOS near the bottom).

    If you ignore conference records, here's how SOS would shake out (playoff teams/AFC contenders in bold). Note the cluster of teams.

    0.614: SD
    0.600: NE, DEN, CAR
    0.560: BUF
    0.553: OAK, ATL
    0.547: KC
    0.533: NYJ, TB
    0.527: STL, CHI
    0.520: DET, MIA, NO
    0.507: PHI
    0.500: WAS
    0.493: BAL
    0.480: SF
    0.473: GB
    0.467: MIN
    0.460: ARI
    0.453: PIT, DAL, IND
    0.447: NYG
    0.447: SEA
    0.440: JAC
    0.427: CIN
    0.413: CLE
    0.393: HOU
    0.387: TEN
     
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    Numbers lie. The Pats went into the houses of TWO 13-2 squads and won. If you lumped those 2 games with the Miami games, it's the equivalent of winning 4 games against 7-8 squads.
     
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    I know this has been talked about before, but first, you should subtract the record other teams have against the Pats -- i.e., subtract 15 losses. Next, diminish the value of really bad teams -- does it matter that the Fins are 1-13 (excluding losses to Pats) rather than 5-9? It does matter if an opponent would be 12-1 versus 9-4.

    Here's what I look at:

    9 teams have locked a playoff spot, WAS is in driver's seat, and CLE and TEN are tied on record. Of these 12 teams, the Pats will have played 7. In addition, the Eagles and Bills (3 games) would have .500 or better records without losses to Pats.

    So, out of 15 games, Pats have played 5 games against playoff teams, 2 games against one of 3 contenders, and 3 games against otherwise .500 teams (unless Eagles lose this week).

    It is theoretically possible to play a minimum of 2 playoff teams and a maximum of 8 playoff teams in a regular season, and Pats could play 7.

    That looks like a very hard schedule to me.

    It would not surprise me if the 72 Dolphins had the weakest schedule of any SB winner including subtracting the inflicted losses.
     
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    What does "if you ignore conference records" mean? How are you computing these numbers?
     
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    A team can end up playing 9--if they don't make the playoffs themselves. :)

    But, still, point well taken.
     
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    I figure ten as a max
    *Other conference (3) division champ and 2 wild cards from that division
    *Same division (4) both wild cards (6 if that team doesn't make playoffs and other 3 do)
    * same conference (3) other 3 division champs
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    3,4,3 gives you ten...12 if you're really unlucky...
     
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    Actually that'd be 3, 3, 3. You can only have 3 teams from a division in, you could get unlucky and get every other division winner in your conference. So it'd be 9 out of the 12 teams, but only if you didn't make the playoffs yourself. Otherwise it'd be eight.
     
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    OK, here's the answer.

    If you make the playoffs, you can play at most 8 playoff teams, because there are 11 other teams and you can never play 3 of the other conference division winners.

    If the wild cards are in your own division, you can play 10 games against 8 playoff teams.

    In 1972, other than the Fins, there were 6/26 teams with 10 or more wins, 7 other playoff teams, and despite 14 games, the Fins played 0. I believe they only played 4 games against teams that were or would have been over .500.

    Pats will play 5 teams with 10 or more wins (in two more games with a possible 11), will play at least 5 and maybe 7 playoff teams (out of 11), and 9 or 10 games against teams that are or would have been .500 or better.

    There is NO comparison.
     
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    They also had to play Miami and the Jets twice each. That's screw up anybody's SOS.
     
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