Welcome to PatsFans.com

What if Brady starts next year as a PUPPY?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by JSn, Oct 16, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    I know we don't want to think about it and recent history shows he should be ready to go. But if it happened, how would we handle our QB situation then?

    Start the season with Kevin? Be hard to sign a vet to only play for six weeks.

    There's no need to respond arguing the validity of the concern. The thread is for the purpose of a "what-if" conversation, that's all.

    How long do we have to find a way to keep Cassel around with shelling out mondo casheroni?

    I suppose if the season fall apart and Kevin gets reps, he's the best option in that scenario.
  2. PatsWickedPissah

    PatsWickedPissah PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2005
    Messages:
    22,515
    Likes Received:
    75
    Ratings:
    +86 / 0 / -0

    Disable Jersey

    What if a meteor hits Gillette Monday and wipes out the squad? What will the league do? (Assuming Jonathan Kraft or some ownership still lives)
  3. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    Listen, if it weren't for hypothetical talk around here there would be like 4 threads.
  4. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,631
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0

    If Brady is on PUP at the start of the season, you have to proceed as if he will be out all season. That means Cassel or Vet unless BB thinks KC is ready to be a starter for next year.

    Too early in this season to judge if Cassel would be that QB.

    What if the team starts 5-1, with a vet, MC or KC? Do you bench him. Hard to sit someone who is 5-1. But also hard to tell a future HOF to hold the clip board.

    Lets make this hypo even worse. MC goes 5-1, TB comes back but is less mobile and rusty team drops to 5-3. MC goes back in?
  5. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,631
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0

    You say that as if it would be a bad thing.
  6. patsgo

    patsgo Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    what if your computer breaks and we dont read any of your numerous posts, what happens then, just saying what if?
  7. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    OK, so it's official fact, most of you guys aren't coping with Brady being gone. In any thread where I've suggested Brady may retire early (not next year or anything) or in a discussion like this, the answers are mostly sarcastic and stupid.

    Do you guys have posters of Tom on the ceiling over your bed or something?

    Every time we do a predict the score we play the what-if game, but bring up the sacred cow and half of you turn into snotty college kids with nothing useful to add to a conversation.
  8. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    Well you're obsessive compulsive disorder comes into clear focus. You don't have to read my posts. Moreover, don't worry, I've got more than one computer. ;)
  9. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    29,360
    Likes Received:
    46
    Ratings:
    +59 / 1 / -0

    Word is that the Pats expect him to be ready for minicamp. So baring a major setback, there doesn't seem to be much of a chance Brady starts on the PUP. Guys who had similiar or worse injuries later in the year like Philip Rivers and Carson Palmer didn't go on PUP the following season. So this thread is a hypothetical to the utmost degree at this point.

    But for the sake of the argument, I agree with the idea that you approach the year as if Brady is done for the season. Odds are the Pats will bring in a veteran QB this offseason whether Brady is on schedule, ahead of schedule, or behind schedule. They will try to prepare O'Connell to be ready to start and have him compete with that veteran for the starting job.

    Bringing in a veteran in February to try to replace Brady the following season is much different than doing it in September. It gives him plenty of time to learn the offense and get into rythm with the receivers and o-line.
  10. Clonamery

    Clonamery PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2005
    Messages:
    3,274
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    My only things is on your "what ifs" is this team has sooooo many more right now than concerning oneself on one "what if" for next year.
  11. patsgo

    patsgo Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    its good to leave your computer once in a while, how about going and taking a brisk walk, get some fresh air, maybe go read a book, how about a jog, go pat your dog, visit your parents,, go grocery shopping, just some ideas for you, im really concerned about you
  12. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    Wow, you suck at the scathing retort, eh?
  13. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    Sure, but since I'm not on the team, I think it's ok to talk about next year.
  14. patsgo

    patsgo Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    its ok let your feelings out, i think this is a first step for you in your recovery, let it all come out, worrying about next years training camp has symptoms that are very serious for you, you need to take a deep breath and say to yourself this is only football, dont worry about everything ,say it 5 times over and over, then take my advise and go for a brisk walk
  15. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    I hate to go this route, but you leave me no choice...

    [​IMG]
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2008
  16. primetime

    primetime Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    4,853
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 2 / -3

    I talked to a guy who had the same injury as Brady and had surgery done by the same surgeon.

    He said Brady would be ready by training camp, no ifs, ands, or buts.
  17. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    Beauty. I think we're "lucky" that the injury happened in game one. Somewhere near the season and we'd possibly be looking at clenching our way through two season.

    I'm a little worried about how the injury will affect Brady's pocket presence and if it will make him skiddish, but he's a tough mofo by most accounts, so hopefully it will be business as usual.
  18. fair catch fryar

    fair catch fryar Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2007
    Messages:
    3,106
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    What if the Pats win the Superbowl with Matt Cassell and TB goes on PUP, then we have a QB controversy.:rolleyes:
  19. JAYHAWKS34

    JAYHAWKS34 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    963
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    That would be a welcomed controversy for sure
  20. spacecrime

    spacecrime Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    8,329
    Likes Received:
    17
    Ratings:
    +17 / 0 / -0

    But they would all be football threads,no?
  21. spacecrime

    spacecrime Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    8,329
    Likes Received:
    17
    Ratings:
    +17 / 0 / -0

    We're coping fine. You the one running around like a chicken with its head cut off, screaming "Help! Help! What will we do if Brady isn't ready to play NEXT YEAR? OMG! OMG! OMG!!!!!!!"
  22. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    I am? Whoa. I've split in two and the other me is invisible to my eyes. Creepy indeed.
  23. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    I am? Whoa. I've split in two and the other me is invisible to my eyes. Creepy indeed. And what's with the hoodisms in your speech?
  24. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,448
    Likes Received:
    69
    Ratings:
    +94 / 2 / -2

    #24 Jersey

    I don't really care for the thread matter either but please explain to us how this is not a New England Patriots football related thread. I'm pretty confused on that one... :confused:
  25. Jimke

    Jimke Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    Even if Brady recovers quickly, I would be surprised if he is not

    on PUP to start training camp. This should give the Patriots a

    little time to put together a reasonably good offensive line. I

    don't want to see him in a game until the line situation is resolved.
  26. alamo

    alamo praedica numerum! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2004
    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    One of the reasons this thread has lots of flak is that the original premise is so poorly thought out. Cassell or a 6-week rental vet? No way that's the real question.

    1. Cassel is almost certainly gone. If he gets good enough later this season to get starter money he is unlikely to stay as a presumptive backup even in the unlikely event we match the offer.

    2. The Patriots have no problem with a vet QB backup, history shows that. The key is, the vet needs to be smart and most importantly needs to be around from the very first offseason camp in May. And at that point it's unlikely we would know if Brady will or will not be ready. But the Patriots will probably try to sign such a guy in March.

    3. Belichick knew after Brady's first offseason what he had with Brady. The first offseason program allows time for great physical and mental development which isn't possible coming directly out of the draft. That's when O'Connell must shine, and it determines whether he is #2 or #3 on the depth chart.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2008
  27. JSn

    JSn Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,449
    Likes Received:
    32
    Ratings:
    +32 / 0 / -0

    No I also asked if we'd start with Kevin.
  28. alamo

    alamo praedica numerum! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2004
    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    Yeah as an afterthought, "I suppose..."

    And if I didn't make it clear: the Patriots QB situation will be substantially set (though subject to training camp competition) long before they will know if Brady will start on PUP. So PUP will have zero effect.
  29. TheGodInAGreyHoodie

    TheGodInAGreyHoodie Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,631
    Likes Received:
    25
    Ratings:
    +25 / 0 / -0

    I think a more accurate statement is the QB situation will be set long before we know if Brady will start on PUP. "We know" as in fans. BB and Co. will have a much better info regarding Brady's progress then we will be informed of.
  30. alamo

    alamo praedica numerum! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2004
    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    I disagree. We have seen enough injuries and recoveries in the NFL to know that there are no certainties no matter how good their info. They may have a better idea but won't know in May, when the QB situation will be decided (subject to training camp of course).
    • Like Like x 1
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page