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What FINANCIALLY - Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

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    #87 Jersey

    I know it's a breitbart link but it's a serious question.

    Can anyone list one thing the Obama family has done to save the country money in terms of their needing protection everywhere they go? I know everyone needs to get away here and there ... but have they ever decided one time that instead of going to 'X' they were going to divert that money to 'Y'?

    Don't want to hear about Bush and the ranch ... different Presidency - different time and there's little disagreement of how much he sucked anyways.

    This guy promised change ... change from the different way things had been done before ... so just 1.

    Just need 1 to qualify as a valid response ... just 1.
    Answer: __________________
    5 kids from my son's soccer team just went to DC ...
    they raised money to go ... they had to scratch the White House visit.

    I am starting to feel like NEM ... :scared:
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    No kids in the White House.
    Shisa and Malki are in the Bahamas.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    In the words a famous French lady - Qu'ils mangent de la brioche
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Unfortunately, you're starting to sound like him, too.

    Personally, I don't begrudge anything any of a sitting president's wife or children "get" in the way of perks. Can you even imagine how hard it must be to be a family member and to give up your individuality, your anonymity, your friends, your home, your job, your school, your very freedom just because one member of your family decided he wanted to be something?

    You can't go to the store, you can't hang out at the mall, you can't go anywhere or do anything at all without first clearing it with a zillion people and even if you get it cleared, you'll never ever be able to do any of it alone.

    Everywhere you turn, someone is trying to take your picture, someone is trying to ask you questions, someone is making up some story and printing it in some media outlet.

    Every haircut you get, every dress you buy, every movie you see, every shoe you put on your foot - it's all fodder for someone who hates, not you necessarily, but whatever it is they think you stand for....although what an 8 year old or even a 16 year old can stand for is beyond me.

    Everything you read says something negative about the parent/spouse that you love - everything you hear says something negative about them.

    I can't imagine raising children under such conditions.

    And then to hear someone whining that they took a vacation - or that they went out of town for a weekend - as if it's some kind of sin to want your family to have a few moments of normalcy - or a weekend of just being as much of a normal kid as you can while being surrounded by 20 Secret Service agents - it's just really petty.

    And that goes for whatever political party one belongs to.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    You see, Harry makes my point for me.

    What did Sasha and Malika ever do to him that he feels the need or the right to deliberately mock children he doesn't even know?

    Imagine being either of them and reading things like this 1,000 times a day.

    How would your own kids hold up under such vitriol?
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Q: What Has the Obummer Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    A: Easy. The American tax payers. :rolleyes:
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Okay ... we'll put you down in the they have sacrificed nothing column.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?


    It's a very fair question Mrs. PF.

    Most of America has been forced to make sacrifices.

    What has the Obama family sacrificed in 4.5 years in bad economic times?

    I think a great counsel for Barack and Michelle would be Pope Francis - maybe he could get them to see that their actions are not exemplary of people that understand what sacrifice is.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Oh, please do go on. Can you expound a bit as to the point you're attempting to make here?

    As for the OP, I think Mrs. summed it up reasonably well.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    If you want to talk about the patriarch...how about his own life?
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Running for and serving as president is a choice ... going on vacations nearly every month is a choice also. Many Americans have been forced to make financial choices due to the millionaires he protects ... you know the Wall Street ones who skated after the collapse.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    1.) You asked what the Obama's have sacrificed. I gave one example. Whether or not it was a choice is irrelevant.

    2.) Can you cite your source on the "nearly every month" line?

    3.) I agree on Wall Street.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    It was in the link ... 3 months in 2013 and 3 vacations.
    More than a Vacation a Month for Obamas in 2013 | The Weekly Standard

    Look ... they can do as they please ... it's a free country.

    But it doesn't look good when kids are being denied White House tours right now.

    In fact it looks less than good ... it reeks of aloof arrogance ...
    something that might be expected from the rich and well distanced from normal civilization people.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    I guess I must have not been very clear that he sucks ass?:confused:

    However, I must say that he does suck ass very well!
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Well, if freedom means nothing to you, then yeah, I suppose you can say they've sacrificed nothing.

    That is not, however, what I've said.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    So, in other words, you're completely unable to articulate a case against the president or substantiate your prior assertion.

    Figures. I tend to relegate people who use "Obummer" as if it's somehow new or funny to the short bus.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Well FINANCIALLY ... and I should have put it in the title.

    What financially have they sacrificed ... I will edit the title because that is what I meant.

    I incorrectly assumed that members would understand what I meant if they read my babble.

    for the record I have posted in the past that
    anyone with young kids is crazy to run for that job ... not fair to the kids IMO.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    My God!! The horror!!

    They went, as a family, to visit family over Christmas.....they took a weekend away from home and stayed with friends for two days - and now the kids may or may not have escaped the fish bowl over spring break.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    A cherry-picked sample size of three friggin' months?! C'mon Icy. You're better than a guy who uncritically spams right-wing canards.

    I have to admit, it is a bit rich watching all of those people who said the sequester is NBD now complaining because - surprise! - negative consequences are manifesting as a result.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    What did he do well otherwise?:confused:
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    It's an opinion Mrs. PF ...

    My opinion is that it does not look good in light of the tours being cancelled.

    I apologize for any inconvenience my opinion has caused you.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    I have posted that the sequester was dumb and petty ...

    I have said there is no good reason they could not have worked out a better agreement.

    I posted that with you if I remember correctly as I agreed with several of your posts on it.

    But our President is also responsible for that sequester ... so ... it is what it is.

    If he thought the cancelled tours were a bad example for our children then he could have fixed it.

    Heck ... he has enough money to pay for those tours from his own pocket.

    Those cancelled tours really bother me Jack
    ... that house is our house

    ... it should never be denied to the American citizens for any reason other than war in this country.

    Those cancelled tours are a stain on our democracy ... and they make me angry.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    And no one else had a hand in it, right?

    And cutting housing to 225,000 poor and disabled Americans - taking free formula away from poor infants, cutting a program that delivers hot meals to the elderly and another that helps pregnant women and provides medical care and food to up to 775,000 low-income women and their children - cutting programs that aid children with special needs; job-training programs that help unemployed people find a new career; foreclosure prevention services; and programs that help 150,000 veterans every year make the transition into the nonmilitary work force - creating a reduction in jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed. Those out of work for more than six months could see their checks shrink by as much as 11 percent - all of that pales into insignificance when compared to a few thousand middle class to rich kids who can afford to take a school trip to DC and who won't get to tour The White House in between their visits to the mall at Pentagon City, the lunch at The Old Post Office and the dinner at The Ronald Reagan International Trade Center?

    Some priorities.....that's all I can say.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/u...s-automatic-budget-cuts-take-effect.html?_r=0

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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    I'm not mocking the children, they're kids, ALL THEY KNOW IS their going on a vacation, I'm KNOCKING the parents for stopping american kids from visiting THEIR White House, while we send billions of dollars over to those throat slitting killers in the middle east, how much did we just give to Palestine, PALESTINE HATES US.

    OBAMA STINKS AS A PRESIDENT, HE'S RIGHT UP TOP WITH THE REST OF "LOUSY PRESIDENTS" I hope we can survive him and start with a fresh one who after he/she gets in will probably be another lousy one.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Major deflection Mrs. PF ... please stay on topic or make your own thread ... this is an Obama thread.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Oh, forgive me....I thought that since your original post and 4 of your subsequent posts mentioned how the White House tours had been cancelled due to the sequester that perhaps other sequester cuts should also be mentioned since they, too, symbolize how the poor and average folks are suffering while the president and his family party on. (Well, actually, they more than symbolize it, but apparently closing the White House to tour groups has become the epitome of suffering and occasionally mentioning the rest of it is all just window dressing to appease the poor and infirm and to assure them that they are not forgotten.)

    And I still want to know how you want us to only mention Obama as being responsible for sequester cuts - last I knew this was a democracy and our senators and congresspeople voted for it, too.
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Can you link to where I say this?

    Where I infer "only" in relation to Obama?

    I see this:
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Sorry, Icy, but you're confusing me. If it's not just about Obama, what did I say that made you bold your response and tell me I was deflecting when I mentioned other sequester costs to the American people?
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Because the thread is about Obama and his vacations.

    Jack Bauer brought up the sequester ... use F3 and see where it gets mentioned.

    I gave a quick response to ... but this is about our aloof President who promised change you can believe in. I don't see anything about this presidency that resembles change. I see a President and family who enjoy being rich. He should wait until he's out of office to live the rich life IMO.

    In the meantime he lives high on the hog on our tax dollars while people suffer. he could use a visit from the Pope. Other than he's a democrat why defend him. He's divisive, aloof, detached from the American people, he's spiteful and arrogant. He may be different than Bush only in that he hasn't launched any wars ... other than that ... he's just as bad and he promised CHANGE.

    Also I mentioned White House tours but there is no evidence pro or con that the sequester affected them ... they had choices to make on cuts and they chose tours ... they could have chosen something else as it was very discretionary ... you can Google that. The vacations are discretionary also ... he chose those and chose cancel tours.

    Sorry Mrs. PF ... the hero of the left is a child when he does not get his way.

    Did I mention they found $250 million for Egypt ... more important than American children see the White House.

    http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/glimpse/top.html
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    Re: What Has the Obama Family Sacrificed in 4.5 Years?

    Yeah it must be torture living a live of glamor and prestige, vacationing in the nicest resorts, meeting celebrities, flying on personal, luxurious jets, getting automatic admission into the most elite private schools in the country, having the media fawn over you 24/7, etc, etc. Wait, whuh??!?

    Well..... To quote you: "My God!! The horror!!"

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