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  1. ALP

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    I was a little suspicious when the Pats put Maroney on IR...

    now i see why, this kid can run, and produces...maroney could have prob played again this yr...but with this kind of runner, why?


    keep it up kid
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    Keep in mind the Broncos defense is horrible.
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    True. But, I thought he looked good and deserved a roster spot back in August. He looked solid tonight, and I am curious to see what happens next for him.
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    Nice bit of running but the Denver run D is quite terrible.
    We might need to lean on the kid sooner than later though with Maroney to IR and Morris injured along with Jordan.
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    He certainly looked good, but let's wait and see how he does against a team which isn't so defensively inept.

    Certainly seemed to have a good motor, always driving for that extra yard - which I would expect from an undrafted rookie trying to prove himself when given a shot.
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    yeah the broncos D is bad, but at least he ran hard. For his first "real" outing I think he did rather well.
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    I think Maroney might have Katzenmoyer syndrome.

    Green-Ellis looked like a mid-round tailback. Drove hard, plays faster than he his, didn't do the best job of recognizing holes. That is expected of a rookie, though. Didn't have the best cuts when he should have gone against the grain, but he hit the holes hard. He can play ball, but he's no stud.
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    I thought BJGE showed some good moves tonight, and showed some power to boot. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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    Hilarious first career touchdown. He could have crawled in. I don't think Evans(?)could find anyone to block. Funny stuff.
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    Before you put him in Canton,can we see him play a few games? ;)
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    I dont know he looked worse then expected for me. Look it the way Morris ran, and then look at BJGE. Morris is not a highly rated RB, and still ran like a man tonight. BJGE was less than that. I think we would all have a different opinion of him if he can against a decent D.
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    He's learning, nice toughness and leg drive, his vision can improve a lot, Denver wasn't tackling well, but a nice effort to build on.
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    Morris was highly rated here on this board! He ran just as he did last year before he was injured.

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    Nice to see BJGE just putting his head down and hitting at the end of plays. And other than his first carry, I didn't see much dancing...
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    I am quite comfortable with Morris as the starting RB. His style suits the Pats offense perfectly. I'm hoping the injury is not serious.
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    no dancing.. some good power.. i like BJGE
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    This I agree with.
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    Yeah, the positive was that the kid hit the hole hard and at least plunged for positive yardage when there was nothing there. Time will tell if he has the "vision" to be more than an average hard running back.
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    And what is WRONG with picking up an average hard running back as an UDFA? If Jordan is re-signed, we'll have five running backs in camp!

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    Green-Ellis ran like a guy who saw what happened to the last guy who danced in the hole.It'll be interesting to see him in a couple of weeks, after he shows us some moves.
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    Look, we need to develop a young running back.
    Sammy Morris is 31.
    Lamont Jordan is 30.
    Kevin Faulk is 32.

    Maroney was supposed to be that back, and maybe he still will be. But the guy has to start staying on the field. The next young back on our roster is Green-Ellis. He looked decent tonight in his first real playing time. Let's all be patient and see how he develops. If he develops into a decent to good running back, this is good for us, IMO.
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    Nothing wrong with that. But if he actually displays "vision" along with running hard, he has the chance of becoming very good. Honestly I hadn't even heard of this guy until tonight. Well I knew we had picked him up but his existence had not registered on my radar! Time to do some research...

    Here's some more info:

    Green-Ellis lacks feel in the passing game, but otherwise is blessed with a rare combination of size, agility and acceleration.

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/benjarvus-green-ellis?id=929

    ESPN had him projected as a 6th round pick.

    Bottom line: Green-Ellis doesn't have the speed or elusiveness and he is an adequate-at-best receiver out of the backfield but he has the burst, size and toughness to develop into an effective short-yardage back so he projects as a late sixth round pick

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft...cker/player?id=12066&univLogin02=stateChanged
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    Still, you have to gauge it against how badly the Broncos had given up at that point.

    Ironically, the team the Patriots played against tonight is one of the prime examples of the 'guy from nowhere into NFL workhouse' paradigm.

    Yes, these thoughts are not connected.
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    All I know is I watched the game with a Broncos fan who kept telling me how their #37 is the next John Lynch (big hitter) and G-E ran him the hell over, like just put him on his back. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

    I don't necessarily like him as a substitute for Maroney though as he seems to have a fairly similar style to the other two main backs on our roster. It was nice to have that change of pace back.
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    Thank you. Hopefully Green-Ellis can provide depth to our back field for the next few years, and hopefully beyond. Possibly develop into a decent change of pace back that can take a few carries every game. And I'm not making any comparison here, but don't forget Willie Parker was also an UDFA for the Steelers.

    and He looked really good tonight for someone who started the season on our practice squad.
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    Runs hard, hits the line without stutter steps, breaks tackles(all night he took contact and either broke the first tackle or pushed forward for positive yardage)...he stepped in and performed...what MORE does he have to do now but continue? I'm sure there'll be another fifty Scary Mary threads put up crying about "why do we play an undrafted rookie???...real reall baaaaddddd!!!".
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    There's a lot of UDFA who have become very good players in this league.

    It has nothing to do with that. Personally Id rather have an UDFA who hits the hole rather than a soft 1st rounder who dances around and gets injured every 2 weeks.
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    On his combine analysis page, it says that sometimes he hits the hole TOO hard and doesn't wait for it to develop. That didn't seem like a big issue tonight :)
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    ooops...NOW you did it...you just opened the door for Patslifer and BtoB to go off with "he hits the hole TOO hard" rants. You KNOW they've been just itching to write their patented hate vomit now that Maroney is IR'ed.
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    I just hope BJ develops into a nice power back and Maroney gets back healthy for the future. That'd be a nice tandem for a couple years. :)
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