As we all know, us Pats fans have been pretty fortunate recently with success, but i just wondering, after 2 ring-less seasons what constitutes a successful patriots season for you? How high are your expectations??? Particularly with the upcoming season. If we don't win the Superbowl will the season be a failure? Was only reaching last years AFCCG a failure, or a major achievement given the WR/LB/secondary problems? Do you just look on each season and say 'anything after winning AFCE is a bonus'? And one final question: would anyone here prefer a 16-0 record book season to winning the Superbowl? I know,i know 'of course not!' you all scream, and I probably agree. But think of the legacy that would leave this team for the decade - 3 Superbowls, longest-win streaks, perfect season etc. Just some things to discuss during a long July.