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What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fiasco

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  1. DarrylS

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    An interesting take on how much money is being spent on Iraq, and what could have been done with it. These costs are huge and getting huger, what I do not understand is not this alone, but he waste and fraud associated by this conflict. Do not understand why there has not been outrage associated with incurring this incredible debt and passing it on to our descendents.

    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington//17158295.htm

    WASHINGTON - The bitter fight over the latest Iraq spending bill has all but obscured a sobering fact: The war will soon cost more than $500 billion.


    That's about ten times more than the Bush administration anticipated before the war started four years ago, and no one can predict how high the tab will go. The $124 billion spending bill that President Bush plans to veto this week includes about $78 billion for Iraq, with the rest earmarked for the war in Afghanistan, veterans' health care and other government programs.


    Congressional Democrats and Bush agree that they cannot let their dispute over a withdrawal timetable block the latest cash installment for Iraq. Once that political fight is resolved, Congress can focus on the president's request for $116 billion more for the war in the fiscal year that starts on Sept. 1.


    The combined spending requests would push the total for Iraq to $564 billion, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service.


    What could that kind of money buy?


    A college education - tuition, fees, room and board at a public university - for about half of the nation's 17 million high-school-age teenagers.


    Pre-school for every 3- and 4-year-old in the country for the next eight years.


    A year's stay in an assisted-living facility for about half of the 35 million Americans age 65 or older.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    The problem with these types of "look what we can do with the money instead" articles is they assume 100% of the money would go to X with absolutely no red tape or administrative costs.

    As the liberal socialist welfare state has taught us, only a horrendously small percentage of money delegated to X actually makes it to X. Take everything that article says we can buy and divide by 15 if you want to know the true numbers.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    Do you have an iota of evidence to support what you are saying, or are you simply continuing with your unsubstantiated claims, like your bizarre claim that most gays are pedophiles? If you don't have a link, don't bother to respond.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    Fine, whatever, you could also get that $500B from a bunch of other places too. It's a bad argument.

    I still question that number anyway. I assume it includes costs that would be paid in times of peace (military salaries, etc). I would like to know what the cost is of the war minus the costs in peace time.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    Coming from a man who claims most Republicans are racists and selfish, you have no leg to stand on when questioning someone else's generalizations.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    Oh I freely admit this was an "educated guess" hyperbole. It was meant to convey a point with being taken 100% literally. I thought that that was obvious and apologize for any unclarity.

    Besides, no link is better than a Wikipedia link. And I am not a lowlife scumbag that will scour Holocaust-denial websites to support a point I am making. Not that we know anyone that would ever do that sort of thing, right Patters..?

    If you're not a holocaust denying scumbag, don't bother to respond.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    I very much doubt if I've claimed that most Republicans are racist, but I have probably said many are. Perhaps there's a post where in the heat of the moment, I neglected to qualify what I was saying, but saying that most Republicans are racist or selfish would be difficult to substantiate, and frankly I don't believe that.

    Saying that most racists are Republicans is quite another matter. Obviously, if you're a racist, you would not join a party that is probably 50% people of color. Also, if the reason you oppose social welfare programs is selfishness, then the Republican Party would be a better fit. You can certainly use a similar type of reasoning to say, for instance, most socialists are Democrats.

    As far as QuiGon's comments they are as far off the wall as Nazi's. To suggest that only 7% (7x15) of money for a program actually goes to the intended is as absurd as claiming that there are more than 10 million ("most gays") pedophiles in the United States. Are you defending him or simply suggesting that two wrongs make a right?

    On edit: QuiGon has now admitted his argument is nothing but hyperbole, meaning I presume that it merely expresses his emotional state and adds nothing of substance to the discussion.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    Sure you would. If you're a black racist like Jesse or Al, you're going to vote straight line Democratic party ticket. Gee, you don't think that only white people could ever be racists, do you..?
    An intelligent person can see, even after admitting it was meant to be hyperbole, that there was an underlying point being made. Surely you're not going to dispute the fact that there would be a bureaucracy expense involved in any of those suggestions of "what else could we do with the money"...?
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    That is such utter drivel. Sure, people don't support blank check welfare because they are selfish. :rofl: Does that mean we could say people who don't support Iraq are selfish too? Maybe we could say people who don't support Iraq are wussies? That would be assinine to say. Wistah, do you support blank check welfare? ABB? How about 3tobe4? You selfish losers! :rolleyes:

    BTW, I hate to piss on your parade, but non-white people are as racist as all other human beings.
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    This war is draining our country of financial and himan treasure.

    last time I checked, the soviet union was brought down the same way.

    good thing we are learning from history and the mistakes of others....DOH!
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    ...leave me outta this, willya? I'm busy! :eat1:
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    Re: What can 500 Billion Buy? Send 1/2 of America's HS to colleg or fund the Iraq Fia

    I'm sorry bud, but I had to use you to make a point. ;)

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