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  1. arrellbee

    arrellbee Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Bob Lobell just reported that the Patriots are seeking not only the training camp fines but also preseason fines and 20% of Branch's original siging bonus.

    Upwards of 800K according to Lobel.
     
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    They are only asking for what they are rightfully owed from the contract that Branch signed with them. Nothing more. And if they don't ask for it, they will be setting a precedent that will make it very difficult to ever hold a player to this, and other, contract terms.
     
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    Completely agree.
     
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    The Pats had given Branch a larger signing bonus for that 5th year(you know, the one that he complained about) so they rightfully should ask for it back.
     
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    They traded Branch so how could he possibly play a 5th season for the Pat's, unless there is something in the CBA?
     
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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


     
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    I know players get away with tons, but I hope they go through with the fines.

    I have no idea why they didn't make it part of the trade. It makes no sense!

    Hopefully db just mans up and pays the fines without any fuss.

    Somehow I doubt it though, it doesn't seem to be in his character.
     
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    Unfortunately I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Hell that the Pats get the fines they should be owed. The NFLPA is enjoying this whole soap opera and PR disaster too much to allow the Pats to get anything out of this except losing Branch and gaining the first rounder. The SOB's will fight tooth and nail with every obscure technicality they can possibly muster or invent to block it. You know they hate our organization (probably as much as the lower echelon owners group!). No way we collect! IMHO. :explative
     
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    arrellbee Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    If the Patriots initiated the trade, they would have had no claim to any recovery of signing bonus. However, in this case, Branch obviously was the one requesting (demanding) the trade (according to his own filed grievances), so that's him chosing to not live up to his contract so according to NFL contracts, he should be liable to return that portion of the signing bonus. As long as there are no other technical issues or as long as an arbitrator isn't 'arbitrary' about how he rules, the training camp fines should be collectible no matter whether the Patriots or Branch forced the trade since they related to Branch not living up to the requirements of his contract at the time..
     
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    Because season 5 started on March 2nd. And Branch did not honor his contract between March 2nd and when he was traded. So, that entitles the Patriots to the signing bonus money as well as the fines I am sure they submitted to the NFL.
     

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