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  1. Redcell

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    I was flipping through the dial just now and landed on WFAN. Some guy calls in and talks about how Brady looked during his combine (a scarecrow) and how he looks now and how there's no way he's not juicing given how he "became a success overnight". The hosts said they didn't know but he could be and then went on to say "how could he if he's impregnating all these women?". Then they start talking about drugs he could be taking to counter the effect and reiterated that he could be juicing.

    I don't mind some banter back and forth but this seemed a little over the top.
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    It's a NY radio station talking about the QB from one of their team's rivals. No different than people here bashing Arod. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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    If this were 2001 and he looked that different then I would agree. But this is 7 years later, you can change your body and put on a LOT of muscle in 7 years.
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    Dude, screw a caller, half the callers in NY are sausage delivery men that have the brain capacity of a bratwurst. Often enough, I scratch my head to the point of wondering if some of these people were hit by a semi at a young age.
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    Brady added about 25 lbs of largely muscle to a frame that could certainly use it. That is the kind of development you would expect to see from a 22 year old 6'4" 195 lb college player maturing after a year of working out full time with a professional staff. He's still actually pretty svelt looking compared to guys like Roethlisberger and Palmer who carry around another 15-25 lbs on their frames. If I were gonna wonder about QB's it would be the ones like poor old Chad, and Carson, and Ben, who returned dramatically early from supposedly devastating and historically debilitating injuries...

    I have no idea what Eli might have dabbled in other than bad DNA...but that's what they should be wondering aloud about on WFAN.

    Not to mention, what's with all the acne on Mangini...LOL
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    Hell, I look a whole lot different now than I did when I was 22. It's called maturing. I look at Brady, all I see is skinny kid from college who grew into his body because all the guy does is work himself physically.

    There's a huge difference between putting on muscle over the years and blowing up over one offseason.

    New York fans are, on the whole, very stupid.
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    Ridiculous. When i joined the Marines I weighed 175. When I got out of Paris Island I weighed 152. After 4+ years in the infantry I weighed 205. Between the ages of 20 and 30 the human body is clay easily molded through dedication and discipline.
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    I know this isn't so or he would have gotten off the injury list over the last four years! :D
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    Totally unfair to bratwurst.
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    There are incredible misconceptions of what steroids can and cannot do for an athlete's performance. Steroids or HGH would not make you recognize defenses, they wouldn't improve your accuracy, nor would they help you go through your checkdowns quickly.

    Even with Bonds, they may have helped his hitting power, but they didn't help him find the ball with his bat. Enough already with this BS.
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    I would agree if it were just the caller. But the hosts totally took it off the reservation from there. I just don't see Dale and Holley going there on someone like Pennington.
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    Brady's weight gain was at a natural pace over the course of a number of years. He didn't have that Nomar, leave the clubhouse in October 180 lbs, report in March 220 lbs ballooning. And, as others have mentioned, unless they're putting "cool" in syringes now, you can't inject his poise or ability to read defenses.
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    Steroids/HGH increase bat speed. Increased bat speed provides the ability to catch up to pitches you would ordinarily miss. That means it does help you find the ball with your bat. Also, fly balls outs became extra base hits and homeruns, ground ball outs became rockets through the hole. As for football, it is foolish to think steroids provide no benefit. Increased power and explosion provide great advantages at virtually evry position, and the ability to recover from not just serious injury but the weekly grind through aid of chemical enhancements is another advantage over clean players. It also could increase arm strength for a Qb, the ability to throw the deep out and the sideline pass, crucial so that defenses don't cheat toward the middle of the field as they do vs Pennington.
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    if Brady is juicing, he is getting screwed by his supplier ;)

    he has put on muscle, but come on, that kid is still pretty thin. the whole premise is pretty funny!
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    This is just NY media striking out after some of their "stars" had the shine taken off of them the other day. Don't give them the time of the day!
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    Did they see the SNL skit where Brady had his shirt off or sleeves off or something, b/c I did, and anyone who did clearly saw that Tom Brady is definitely not on steroids. He's one scrawny dude.
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    I don't see how this can be classified as being "totally dissed.":rolleyes:
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    I put it that way because of the way they (the show's hosts) quickly classified Brady as someone who might be juicing but then the comment (again, made by the show's hosts) about impregnating multiple women would be a reason why he "couldn't be juicing" sent it to the arena of disrespect. At least in my book it did.
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    You forgot extremely jealous also, especially that fat @#@# francesa! I wonder how long i would last on the air with them if i just openly accused his hero Jeter or Williams for doping without even a tiny shred of evidence or proof to back it up!
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    what do you expect from ny media.. their team suck, they cant talk about the jets, theyre boring..
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    A caller called in???? And this is something that anyone should talk about??

    Yikes, over the top dumb.
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    And the other half are sausage recipients. Too bad they come here to get married. :bricks:
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    Again, my point was NOT what the caller was saying but rather the radio show hosts comments/attitude TO the comment.
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    Let the Buttafuocos talk.

    Pats fans: Embrace the Hate.

    It's all about jealousy. If sports mean something to you, and you are a lowlife and a Yankees, Jets, and Knicks fan, this is what happens.
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    Brady put on about 25 pounds of muscle in the 2000-2001 offseason. So his growth from what he was in February 2000 isn't just over the course of 7 years or so. There's no evidence Brady used 'roids, but it's not something that can be categorically dismissed, since none of us really know. We at least should all be able to degree that it's silly speculation on both sides of the issue.
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    Really?!? Steroids can give you ice water in your veins when you have less than two minutes left and no time outs in the Super Bowl after the opposing team just came back from down 14?

    Damn, Steroids are a lot better than I thought they were.
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    You know, I am SURE that he is not on the juice. But if I think wildly and imagine that someday I found out Brady was a juicer... I just might kill myself.
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    Okayyyyy.

    If I called in to WFAN and said maybe Brady sold his soul to the devil, the one with the pitchfork and horns, not Belichick, does someone have to prove he did not?

    We have about the same level of evidence for the idea, slim to none.

    Let's recap, despite the lack of a burden of proof. Facts in favor of hypothesis:

    - he put on some weight. One guy here says it was all in one offseason. Others say over 7 years.

    - He started out incredibly skinny

    Mitigating factors:

    - No proof or belief that he did, other than he put on some weight

    - As skinny as he started out, an alternate explanation to anyone who has the remotest casual interest in morphology would be that his body was at the beginning, rather than completion, of the maturation curve. He wasn't grown up yet. People do this at different times, with even early bloomers putting a good deal on in their early 20s.

    - He regularly wins the Pats' little informal who-works-out-the-most contest that results in the workout warrior parking spot. That's against gigantic linemen, psycho linebackers and safeties, etc.

    - Pregnant supermodels

    - A personality that has never in any public setting -- and he puts himself in plenty of them -- seems irritated or angry

    - poise on and off the field suggests behavioral effects of supposed roid use are negligible

    - No preternatural muscle bulk... did he just juice up "a little" or something?

    PFnV
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    This thread is exactly why Pats fans get such a bad rap nationally. What a bunch of thin-skinned ninnies you all are.

    Honestly, why is this even a topic of discussion? Far worse gets said about opposing athletes on Boston sports radio every day. You people need to accept that people hate us, our teams and anything associated in between. It's a fact of life going forward as a Boston sports fan. Deal with it.
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    I'm sure we all appreciate the life lesson. Thanks for letting us know how to think and what to deal with.
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