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Westhoff accuses Patriots of building sideline wall, too | ProFootballTalk
This story gets better and better every day.
Sweet. Now there will definitely be a Senate investigation.
The classic defense. Point fingers elsewhere in the hopes the attention placed on you will be diverted. Practiced by three and four year olds worldwide.
I guess he thinks he can deflect attention by saying the "Cheatriots" do it too. Personally ive never seen any other team do this, and ive been watching football for 45 years.
So now every time there is wrongdoing in the NFL, the Patriots have to be implicated as well. "Stop deflecting the blame you stupid old coot"!
Well, true, but we (as fans) did this re: Cameragate.
Attention Deflecting 101.
But BB didn't, he took full responsibility. It seems the league is rewarding liars and tattlers with less discipline!
but, this is actually true. Wasn't it Ditka who defended the Pats after this?
Westoff is just throwing blame around
"They line their whole defense up"
And I would have been so stupid to think they were standing there because they had to go into the game after the punt.
The key point to me: Westhoff specifically mentions that defensive players 'line up' for the Patriots. Now, I wouldn't doubt if the Pats do this, and frankly I'd imagine most teams do; however, 1) you've never heard of the Patriots interfering with gunners, I'd imagine they step out of the way beforehand to avoid the 15 yard penalty; and 2) the wall the Jets employed contained PS players who aren't supposed to be on that part of the sideline.
In the end this is much ado about nothing, but to me the entire Spygate thing was similarly a non-event, so I'd love nothing more than to see some league penalties handed down to the Jets over this.
So this explains all the winning! Easterbrook and King had this right all along, the other shoe has finally dropped. We're doomed.
It's not like I'm defending the Jets on this one. This came from their organization. Bunch of losers.
I have no doubt that most teams have players standing on the sidelines during NFL plays. It's an entirely different thing to set them up foot to foot like a soccer wall. I'm surprised they weren't all covering their crotches.
"I had no idea my team was engaging in this practice, even though I am Special Teams coach and it's my area of responsibility, but I know for a fact that other teams are engaging in this practice."
I love it. He claims to have inside knowledge of every team's sideline practices except his own.
Exactly, I mean WTF is the strrength coach's business toeing the line during a punt return. The defenders will be running back onto the field
We are witnessing the behavior of RATS escaping a sinking ship...
Though some Pats fans did that, I don't remember any member of the team or staff pointing fingers after the so-called spygate scandal.
Hilarious! Let's see if any national media types point this out.
Even the Globe's SMY says this is absurd:
If this is true, I'm sure there will be plenty of examples caught on camera over the years. Of course, I'm still not sure what rules are being broken when you have your defense standing along the sideline but... eh.
More like a crashing jet......
They are talking about this on the Big Show right now...
I can't even express how much like a b1tch this guy comes off as. Firstly, who the heck cares if you did put them on the line. Secondly, mind your own frikin buisness and stop talk crap about other teams. Is this what passes for "swagger" these days? Man up and tell the freakin truth. You knew exactly what they were doing.
"Asked if heâ€™s saying the Patriots line up players to impede punt coverage teams, Westhoff elaborated. â€śWell, if you watch them, their defense when the opponentsâ€™ punt team is out there,â€ť Westhoof said. â€śTheyâ€™re up there pretty close to the line so it looks like they are trying to do it. Now are they doing anything illegal? Are they tripping anybody, heck no. Iâ€™m not saying that. Thatâ€™s not the point. But, yeah, theyâ€™re lined up there. Is it making a difference? I donâ€™t know. I really donâ€™t know, because to tell you the truth before this happened I never really looked at anybodyâ€™s sideline in all my years.â€ť
Anyone see the "contradiction" in his words? - - Look at the turn on that last sentence after going on and on about other teams' sideline practices. He's a liar.
This guy Westhoff just dug himself a big hole.
At least in Spygate, the Patriots took their punishments like men and didn't try to implicate others. I find it disgusting that the Jets* would get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and then try to implicate other teams for doing what they got caught for.
The Jets* prove that they deserve the Rats nickname.
Aside from deflecting blame in an attempt to remove scrutiny, Westhoff contradicts himself as well:
In the beginning of the response he's talking about how the Patriots do this. Prior to that he says "a number of teams do it" - which of course begs the obvious question as to why he felt compelled to single out only the Patriots - but then goes on to say â€śI really donâ€™t know, because to tell you the truth before this happened I never really looked at anybodyâ€™s sideline in all my years.â€ť
So which is it Mike: you've noticed a number of teams do it, or you've never seen seen it in all your years?
It has to be one or the other, it can't be both.
Ditka, Walsh, Shula, Coughlin, Shanahan, etc. There were a bunch more. Pretty much everyone said they taped signals.
Separate names with a comma.