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    Okay, I may not be the best amateur talent evaluator, but even I really struggle with these rankings. Pouncey in the top five? Hernandez and Dwyer in the top ten? Spiller the third ranked back? Worilds above Graham, Dunlap, JPP, and Kindle?

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    Well, if you keep in mind he's ranking them by grade, and not where they should be drafted, it makes a bit more sense. If he grades Pouncey and McClain out as perennial Pro-Bowlers, then in his system it makes sense that they're rated above high-ceiling projection guys like JPP or Dunlop. He's also not taking into account the factors of position scarcity and importance that lifts pass rushers and quarterbacks and suppresses interior linemen and inside backers.
     
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    Interesting. Bunting has put himself out on a limb, to be sure, but there's a slim chance he could be smarter than 300 other "experts".

    Pouncey... talented and versatile OG/C whose versatility may raise his stock
    Hernandez...touted as the best blocking TE; soft hands.
    Dwyer...tough, explosive downhill runner. Did I say tough? He is tough.
    Spiller...this is a difficult one...I can't rationalize this. lol
    Graham...his 30" arms will hurt his stock...compare to Trevor Laws 2 yrs ago.
    Dunlap...takes plays off
    JPP...raw talent, a project but an athlete
    Kindle...may not be effective dropping into pass coverage is all I can come up with. Too short for BB's prototypical OLB?
     
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    All this, too. Good post, dryheat.
     
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    Hernandez is not even close to the best blocking TE and anybody who says otherwise simply doesnt watch college football, hes a great receiving target and the Dallas Clark Comparison is pretty good.. Kindle is 6'4...How is that too short?
     
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    You're right about Hernandez as a Dallas Clark comparison. As for Kindle, not being 6'6" is all I could come up with on Bunting's behalf. ;)
     
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    I really like Wes Bunting's stuff. He's been covering possible draft prospects for the 2010 draft since college football preseason and his breakdowns have always been pretty detailed. There will always be some players he will rank higher than anybody else like Jason Worilds now. He was also pretty high on Anthony Davis before Davis was a first rounder in almost any mock draft.
     
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    Knocks on Kindle include poor/off-balance change of direction, overrunning plays, taking really wide angles around the outside in pass rush, not having the moves or leg drive to get by/disengage blockers if his initial punch fails to knock them back. Similar issue to what I see with Guyton. And Kindle's projected forty (4.59) is about the same as Guyton's was, IIRC.

    Most of these are technique/strength issues that may be corrected over time, but then, he seems likely not to be an immediate contributor because of them.

    Kindle's current average in five different overall rankings is #27, but the range withing those five is huge - anywhere from 13th to 51st - the largest of any hypothetical 1st round prospect by far.

    Not sure I'd want to spend a 1st/2nd round pick on a guy who appears, at this point, to be only marginally better than Guyton, even in the hope that he develops into something significantly more than Guyton. That's not to say that Kindle wouldn't represent a significant, immediate upgrade for some other team.
     
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    What he said (about Hernandez) !! Blocking seems to be the weakest part of his game.
     
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    I actually like this. A guy using his own eyes and brain. I'm so sick of looking at mock drafts where the top 20 picks are all the same guys, just in different order. Right or wrong, I give him major props.
     
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    Kindle is 6'3.5 according to the Senior Bowl weigh-ins.. But your point is a good one.
     
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    As a rather large fan of Worilds, I can see somebody putting him that high if this were just about talent but with Jason Worilds' shoulder injury history, that is a very bold ranking.
     
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    Looks like there's another member of the Maurkice Pouncey fan club.

    Opinions could change after the Combine & Pro Days, of course; and needs could change during the FA period; but unless someone like Dez Bryant or Rolando McClain inexplicably drops to 22, then I would give very serious consideration to taking Pouncey with our first-rounder. As of today, I see Center as our 2nd-greatest need on Offense after a #2 WR.
     
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    He's got two guys I would really love to see the Pats get rated very hihg, Spiller, who I think would be a monster in the screen game, aside from his other skills.

    And his teamate Sapp, who has the size, speed, and strength to be a 3-4 OLB, this guy lives in the backfield, injuries (all of which he is now over) have hurt his stock.

    Alas, I think that after the Combine both of them will be long gone before #23, let alone any chance to grab them both.
     
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