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Well when is the word boycott going to start making the rounds.


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Last time I went to a game, the ticket cost me $350. Add in my travel expenses, hotel, food and drink and you are talking a lot of money. When I spend that much, there is no way I am going to give it up to make a point. One thing that these owners should realize, The average fan can barely afford to go to a football game. Since the NFL supports scalping it is hard to get tickets to a game at face value. Most people I know may only go to a game every couple of years. It's too bad that it's putting out an inferior product.

The scalpers I am talkingh about are ticket brokers. I don't understand how they can buy up loads of season tickets and double or triple the face value.

And unless you have a Neilson box, boycotting on TV does nothing.
 
I posted this in another thread:

If you look at a possible player walkout, the players have no leverage. In Article 3 of the NFL CBA (below), the players have agreed not to strike.
Except as otherwise provided in Article 47 (Union Security), Section 6, neither the NFLPA nor any of its members will engage in any strike, work stoppage, or other concerted action interfering with the operations of the NFL or any Club for the duration of this Agreement, and no Clubs, either individually or in concert with other Clubs, will engage in any lockout for the duration of this Agreement. Any claim that a party has violated this Section 1 will not be subject to the grievance procedure or the arbitration provisions of this Agreement and the party will have the right to submit such claim directly to the courts.

Article 47, section 6 C talks of courts invalidating the CBA:
It is further agreed that notwithstanding anything else in this Agreement, if at any time in the term of the Agreement, any court or agency shall wholly or partially invalidate the provisions of this Article relating to Union Security, then the NFLP A may reopen this Agreement upon the giving of 10 days' written notice, with reference solely to the issue of Union Security, and both parties will have an obligation to resume negotiations limited to the issue of Union Security, and both parties will be free to engage in whatever concerted or other action may be permitted by law in support of their positions.

So, in my interpretation, the players have to get the CBA in court, and a judge has to invalidate it, and then they could possibly strike. The NFL lawyers have taken any leverage away from the players, preventing them from walking out. Of course, the players could still do so, but they would have no legal right to, and they could be ordered back on the job by the courts.

It seems as if the NFL got the players to ratify the CBA, and then they turned their lawyers loose on the NFLRA. The NFL believes, rightly, that fans will watch games no matter what type of officiating is going on. It has unfortunately become part of the reason to watch. The players, perhaps the officials only ally, can do little but stand by and watch. Or can they?

The NFLPA has issued a statement, which reads:
The NFL Players Association Executive Committee is calling on you to end the lockout of our referees. We believe there is substantial evidence that you have failed in your obligation to provide as safe a working environment as possible.

Your decision to lock out officials with more than 1,500 years of collective NFL experience has led to a deterioration of order, safety and integrity. This affirmative decision has not only resulted in poor calls, missed calls and bad game management, but the combination of those deficiencies will only continue to jeopardize player health and safety and the integrity of the game that has taken decades to build.

As we predicted and explained to you weeks ago, the removal of the veteran officials from regular season games left a group of your replacements who have proved to be incapable of keeping pace with the speed of the game. Coaches and players have complained of numerous errors and failures including: erratic and missed calls on egregious holds and hits, increased skirmishes between players and confusion about game rules. Many replacements have lost control of games due to inexperience and unfamiliarity with players and rules.

The headlines are embarrassing: a scab working a game despite having been on the payroll of one of the teams, another who was assigned to referee a team he publicly supported on Facebook, and one who is a professional poker player when you propose even more stringent player rules on gambling.
It is lost on us as to how you allow a Commissioner to cavalierly issue suspensions and fines in the name of player health and safety yet permit the wholesale removal of the officials that you trained and entrusted to maintain that very health and safety. It has been reported that the two sides are apart by approximately $60,000 per team. We note that your Commissioner has fined an individual player as much in the name of “safety.” Your actions are looking more and more like simple greed. As players, we see this game as more than the “product” you reference at times. You cannot simply switch to a group of cheaper officials and fulfill your legal, moral, and duty obligations to us and our fans. You need to end the lockout and bring back the officials immediately.

We are all men who love and respect this game and believe that it represents something beyond just money. For our teammates, our coaches and our fans who deserve better, vote to end this lockout now.

Perhaps this is the first legal domino to fall for the players. The players may begin to sweep the leaves to the pile in order have some sort of solidarity walkout. It seems unlikely, but perhaps it's the only option. Clearly, the NFL isn't interested in fixing the situation, regardless of what is said or written. Actions speak louder than words.

Steve something drastic has to take place here because Goodell is obviously turning a blind eye to this debacle of a product he's putting out there. How much more can fans take?! So he expects a person to take his family to a game, dish out afew hundred dollars(Just Ticket) and expect a fair shake for his/her buck. It'sa joke! This substitute teacher syndrome crap keeps up, it's only gonna get worse.
 
When are the Krafts going acknowledge that the team has taken a serious hit on their home field in the playoffs due this and do the right thing? Is taking down the union more important to them than their team and their fans?
 
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When are the Krafts going acknowledge that the team has taken a serious hit on their home field in the playoffs due this and do the right thing? Is taking down the union more important to them than their team and their fans?

Kraft bent over quietly and asked for another on Spygate so I wouldn't expect any loud public outcry
 
Kraft bent over quietly and asked for another on Spygate so I wouldn't expect any loud public outcry

That's a shame. He was so decisive when he saw the players were slipping and sliding in the Miami(?) game and he cared enough to put on the turf in what, one week? No we've arguably lost two games already due to these refs. I was hoping for the same kind of response.
 
A boycott won't work because tickets are already paid for and TV money is already negotiated. There will be little or no impact.

Still lots of unsold tickets (not in NE), and if people stopped buying NFL merchandise and cut down on concessions at the games by 50% or so, even for a month, I guarantee the the owners would take notice. That in itself would make them lose a hell of a lot more money than they're going to have to pay the refs.

EDIT: Sorry PWP, just saw your post essentially saying the same thing.
 
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Kraft bent over quietly and asked for another on Spygate so I wouldn't expect any loud public outcry

Have you heard from any of the owners? They are unified behind the chief lawyer in charge.
 
Still lots of unsold tickets (not in NE), and if people stopped buying NFL merchandise and cut down on concessions at the games by 50% or so, even for a month, I guarantee the the owners would take notice. That in itself would make them lose a hell of a lot more money than they're going to have to pay the refs.

Like I posted on another thread this Substitute teacher syndrome crap MUST end now! but it won't 'cause Goodell is hell bent on not giving in even tho' NFL is wealthy. For what is at stake it's like chump change tip money. Goodell wants to reach out to an international fan base,games In London Yearly etc just think what their thinkin about OUR game now?!
 
Stop it.

There is no way these crazed fanatics will ever just pull the brakes and come to a screeching stop when it comes to watching football, me included. Its not going to happen, don't lie to yourself. You're gonna watch the games either way.

You're right that it's impossible to get people to stop watching their teams. It isn't impossible, though, to get them to stop buying stuff and stop watching other teams.

For example, I was planning on buying a Chandler Jones jersey sometime early this season. Wanted to wait a couple games and see if he was as good as I thought he'd be, then buy the jersey if/when it was confirmed. He's confirmed that he's awesome, but I'm not buying it for now, and frankly I might just not buy it at all. Between the lockout last year and this, the idea of anyone associated with the NFL getting any more of my money offends my sense of justice. Same reason why I tried to cancel my NFL game rewind (they wouldn't let me), and instead settled on cancelling auto-renew to ensure that I wouldn't buy it again in the future.
 
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You're right that it's impossible to get people to stop watching their teams. It isn't impossible, though, to get them to stop buying stuff and stop watching other teams.

For example, I was planning on buying a Chandler Jones jersey sometime early this season. Wanted to wait a couple games and see if he was as good as I thought he'd be, then buy the jersey if/when it was confirmed. He's confirmed that he's awesome, but I'm not buying it for now, and frankly I might just not buy it at all. Between the lockout last year and this, the idea of anyone associated with the NFL getting any more of my money offends my sense of justice. Same reason why I tried to cancel my NFL game rewind (they wouldn't let me), and instead settled on cancelling auto-renew to ensure that I wouldn't buy it again in the future.

I hear where ya comin from BFTW. I'm a DIE HARD PAT's Fan just like everyone else in here but why should I spend afew hundred bucks to see a game (just tickets for 2) didn't even get a hotel, park get in eat, souvenir etc you get my point AND THEN have to see if Pats are playin opposing team or Refs. I don't trust'da game right now. Too much is goin on and it's gonna get worse.
 
What if the players just delayed the start by about 15 minutes or so, of all the 1pm games Sunday? Wouldn't that cause some serious shake-ups to the networks 2nd game status, and of course the advertisers would take a hit. The networks would be seriously pissed!

Just my 2 cents!
 
Just heard on eei that they are meeting again today.

I don't think it would be much of a fan revolt to get the real refs back.
 
I did not watch the MNF game last night due to the Pats Ravens debacle. It wasn't hard to do. I won't watch Thursday night either. Pats only for me and even that sort of sucks because who knows what will happen with the refs. So sad.
 
Its on!

[QUOTEDETROIT (97.1 The Ticket) On the long flight back for the Green Bay Packers following the team’s 14-12 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, players debated going on strike or taking a knee on every play in upcoming games if the replacement referee issue isn’t solved.]
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What I posted and suggested earlier. What would Goodell do?
 
I'm not watching another NFL game until this thing is sorted out. Its just not worth all the annoyance that it has caused me over the last two weeks. We have got screwed out of two games now.
 
I just can't boycott the Pats but as a personal protest I am going to stop watching other games until this debacle ends. As my husband says, who wants to watch a game that is decided every week not by the skills of the coaches & players, but by the Keystone Cops?
 
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