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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    Do we take a stab at RFA Wes Welker in exchange for a second rounder?

    He is young, an impact player on ST, and an underrated receiver. Think Troy in his glory years. Statistics aside they both have intangibles that many overlook and with Troy possibly retiring he would move right in as a long term replacement. He's clutch and everything I've read about him leads me to believe he's a good locker room presence and a believer in the team concept.

    It comes down to whether you believe we can get better production out of a (low) second rounder. Many say it takes at least 2 years for a receiver to adapt to the NFL, so that should be weighed also. We've had mixed results with second rounder receivers so far, Branch = great, Bethel = bust, CJ = ???. WW would remove most of that uncertainty, but we'd sacrifice the upside of a possible #1 receiver (like Branch).

    In comparison to the Dillon trade, it seems like we'd be getting less value. But assuming Dillon is gone, we got only 3 years out of him and only 1 really great season. Welker is in his prime, we could sign him long term and he'd be a contributer in two phases of the game.

    If any non-Pats receiver seems like he should be donning the Blue/Silver, it's Welker. I think he is worth the price.
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    I'll pass. I can think of 4 dbs, 3 lbs and 3-4 wr's that are in the draft that I'd prefer to pick w/ our 2nd.
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    I love Welker and I think that at this time of the year people exaggerate the up-side of possible draft picks and downplay the risks. But I'm not sure that he's "Troy in his glory years". Troy had pace and elusiveness that I haven't seen in Welker. If it were me, though, I'd roll the dice on him.
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    I think I'd be more tempted by Hackett than Welker.
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    If we keep Asante we don't need a DB in the second, and if we don't we can probably draft one in the second if not the first. I'd go a second for Welker. This team needs a shot of versatile, hard nosed, offensive adreneline that this kid brings. Great field position, no Maroney and Hobbs on the return team, a replacement for our soon to retire versatile smurf.

    This is a kid who can multi-task. WR/KR/PR/PK and who knows what else he could be coached up to do.
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    If it was my decision, I would give up a second rounder for Welker in a second.
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    No way. Welker is just not that good. He is not as good as Troy Brown in his prime.
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    I am tending to lean that way as well, but it is tough to give up a solid draft pick for him. He would boost our SP and WR for sure. I think it depends on BB draft strategy as well. If he plans to use the 1st 3 picks for defense then you wont see Welker, but if he was planning on getting a WR with one of them, then he may seriously look at it.
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    Honestly though, not many are as good a Troy in his prime. I dont think he can be expected to be as good as Troy right now either because of the team and QB situation. Why are you saying he is not that good?
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    I think he's the answer to a lot of holes, especially if Troy retires. Understand that most of my knowledge about the guy comes from seeing him against the Pats. In those games he's been a REAL force on special teams, and has been very productive as a slot receiver. His toughness and resiliancy make him attractive to me. Despite his size, he doesn't seem to miss many game and catches the ball in traffic well. We'd get a lot more out of him in 2007 than we would with any WR or DB we'd pick up in the second round.

    If we can't get a Kevin Curtis, I'm all for Wes Welker. HE'S A GAMER
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    I don't get the hype on this guy. Pass.
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    I'd give a #2 for Wanker. Look at the crappy job we've done with our 2nd round out of college. Last good round 2 pick we made that wasn't a bust was Dillon.
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    We already have a couple guys best suited to be a #3 WR. It makes no sense to give up a #2 for a thrid guy with that ability.
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    I've seen Welker outside of his games with the Pats and I'm very impressed. He looked like the ONLY guy on the Doofins' offense that came to work 100% every single week. That, and like mentioned, he's versatile and might come cheap.
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    As a charter member of the Wes Welker Fan Club since months ago,
    i am tickled to see the Phins give us this opportunity.

    It is one of the few times we muse about this player or that ...
    and i am confident that the f/o is hard at work right now
    trying to make a fit.
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    If the team were to blow a 2nd rounder signing a RFA, I'd much rather it was Hackett. He could be a lot more than just a slot receiver (albeit a very good slot receiver).
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    What reason is there to think he'd come cheap? For starters, he already carries the price tag of a second round pick unless a trade could be worked out. The chance of that in the division is extremely remote. The pick itself is expensive for Welker- Javon Walker was Denver's return on a #2 pick for a point of comparison.

    Welker would also be giving up URFA a season from now by signing a long term deal with us. It isn't realisitc that he would do that for a cheap deal.

    A 2nd round pick plus the $ he would want is very expensive for a good slot WR and average or slightly below average return man (28th and 21st in KR and 11th and 15th in PR the last 2 years).
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    Please cite better uses of our 2nd round pick in recent Pats history. Dillon is all I got.
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    Drew Bennet, Kelly Washington, and Donte Stallworth, not to mention..Kennen Mcardell , Joe Horn as well... Save the draft pick ,even though its temptin....
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    Prrior to the announcement of CJ's ACL injury, I was all for doing anything reasonable to get Welker. Still am,with the caveat that we would probably have to pick up a FA LB or WR that can play. Would still leave us with 2 late rd. 1st's.
    Then we jump to 3rd. Not too bad, IMO.

    Welker is that good. If we don't game plan for him, he kills us. He would be a definite upgrade in the slot, no offense to Troy. Not to mention it would be good to have another WR we didn't have to "coach up" excessively.
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