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  1. Halifax_Pats_Fan

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    Sorry, you all are gonna hate, but i believe Welker is going to be the best off-season pick up of the past year. His speed and sharpness, even if only in pre-season, looks impressive.

    :)
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    Re: Welker best offseason pick-up

    I've thought for a while that he would lead the team in catches and this past game just made my confidence in that opinion grow. I don't see him having great yards per catch or a lot of TDs, he'll just pick up 1st downs and keep the chains moving, much like Troy Brown has done for a while.
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    You are INSANE. Adalius? Moss? Stallworth? Meriweather?

    I think you have a little too much man love for the little White guy.
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    hmm you're picking those 4 because they are more talented or because they are black?
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    I am glad you used future tense because the title sounds like you crowned him already....I think he is looking better and better and as Breer said he and Brady are syncing up. It will be tough for him to wind up the best offseason pick-up but he should prove to be a really good move.
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    DONT TURN THIS INTO A RACE THREAD!

    Back on topic.

    I completely agree that Welker might be the one of the most important guys but im going to still have to go with Adalius Thomas being #1.

    Guy gives you way too much flexibility at LB and is one of the fastest and strongest players on the field at all times.

    In preseason alone he has been a real run stuffer.
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    Its between Welker and Thomas.

    I know Welker is going to be good. I hope Thomas is.
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    If all the FA pickups play up to what we hope they do I'd have to think Thomas and Moss will have bigger impact. But Thomas hasn't yet had a major impact and so far Moss has been the invisible man.
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    Already got my Welker jersey and I think it will be a collective impact from all the great free agents Beoli brought in discluding Chad Brown of course he's too old to play linebacker at a high level all hell Justin Rogers!:D
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    I absolutely love Welker, and I believe he'll be a huge factor on our team. But, I think Thomas was a bigger acquisition. Without Thomas, our LB core is very questionable.
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    While I think I'm going to love Welker there is no doubt in my mind that Adalius Thomas was the best offseason addition. So versatile on defense and he is f'ing fast for someone who weighs in at 290 pounds. He will make the defense even better than it is.
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    1. Adalius
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    I would put Moss above Welker. Welker is a good receiver and a good returner but its not like we had mediocre returners last year. Kevin Faulk was a pretty solid PR. With Moss we are getting a true #1 receiver which we haven't had for a while. And Moss was a great steal for a 4th round pick.
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    Welker will become a fan fave quickly and is a significant addition.. the same with Thomas, sometimes these comparisons are like comparing raisins and grapefruit.. both are really good and both will make this team better.
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    I think Welker is a underated pick up, but the best pick up all offseason is Thomas.. I was very content with the adition of Stallworth... Moss is just another asset..
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    Okay we don't have a LB core. There's not a U.S. Marine Core either. It's corps.

    Corps, corps, corps.

    Dabgummit.

    Think about them being not quite corpses yet. Or maybe we only havest them when they're ready, like crops. Or how about, since they're full of pi$$ and vinegar, there has to be some "P" in them.

    I don't care how you remember, just please, please remember it's "corps", or I will burst a blood vessel in my bloated mutant forehead.

    Oh yeah and also... Welker may well end up right up at the top. Nice thing is, with Welker, we have several years to find out. :)

    PFnV
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    True but if someone wants to refer to the Linebackers as the central part of the defense, it would the core of the defense.
    I know it's the D Line but it doesn't fit in this context.

    As for the pickups what's interesting is that while the roster will turn over about 10-11 spots ( 20%) which is the annual norm for the Pats, most of the pickups are veterans, Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Thomas, Brady, Morris, Washington ?,Rivers and there will in all likelihood be only 3-4 rookies on the 53 man roster, Meriweather, K. Brown, Baugher and probably Richardson/Rogers.
    It reminds me of the Celtics teams of the mid60's when they were in the midst of their run and it was primarily a veteran team who had played together for a long time and the philosophy was " if it's not broken, don't start changing things".
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    Not to disparage Welker - who along with AD will bridge us into the next dynasty - but if Welker went into this season with the same deep threat (or lack thereof) that the team had last year, there's no point in being excited with him leading the teams in catches.

    Caldwell had 61 last year - a pretty darn good year overall statistically - but no matter what the stats about our offense told us, our eyeballs knew that Defenses had no respect for our deep game, were stacking the line, and hindering the running game, double teaming Watson, and putting all kinds of hits and pressure on Brady.

    The stats will not show it but Moss and Stallworth are the most significant additions for the offense.
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    I think Welker will be in single coverage underneath. If they can get some good blocking downfield we could get some big yards. There will be many designed plays for him this year I think, key 3rd down plays especially.

    Faulk is also along the lines of Welker..i don't know who would be quicker. I love Faulk just as much as the next Pats Fan and I think he is awesome, however I think Welker may be a bit quicker. I think he is going be the 'x' factor on offense.

    AD though, as all of you I think correctly point out, is going to be a star player on a team known for it's defense.

    I should have pointed out our key offseason offensive pick up. Even in the face of Morris, who I think should be used a lot this year, and Moss who we all know has crazy skills.

    In this offense, Welker is going to be key...just my thoughts....

    My bad, shoulda clarified the post.:)
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    I definately see your point, however Welker may be able to come in and perrform when these guys are covered, which is my point...
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    Just want to nip this in the bud, by continually fueling the fire -

    PFinPhilly, I do agree that's where the confusion comes in, and it's understandable confusion. It sounds like it should be core, and you can easily trace the source of the error. It's also not anybody's fault that we have this other word, corps, running around, sounding different from how it's spelled. You don't have to tell me, my friend, I lost family members in the Great Vowel Shift.

    But I say, let's just be the "educated fan base," and just as we all take our lumps figuring out the Xs and Os from some of the far brighter lights here, by God, when we're faced with useful knowledge gleaned from our fan site (in this case one little eddy of our strange language,) why not accept the new knowledge and be a little smarter? I don't think of myself as a football guru, but I sure like knowing the little I've gathered about 2-gap line play while poking around fan sites. I don't say "That may be true, but I could believe that a 2-gap defensive scheme refers to the 2 gaps created between the nose tackle and each end because they are often so far apart." I accept that each lineman is responsible for 2 gaps, and I move on.

    Okay sorry for the highjacking. For the record -- Stallworth, Moss, or both could disappoint. I don't think it will happen. But Welker is the guy structured to stay a few years, come what may.

    I think we're far more likely to look back at Welker as having been the best WR signing, just because the others are more likely to move on.

    Of course what I hope is they all stay together and do so for reasonable prices, as the Pats romp to the first 3peat in Super Bowl history. But the "Welker was the best one" scenario, especially when viewed in (future) retrospect, seems likely as well. (Since we will always look back more fondly on our own.)

    PFnV
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    Guys, all that was said was he thinks Welker "could" be the best free agent acquisition when it is all said and done. I don't think anyone can argue that, who knows how it will turn out as it is still the preseason. But I definately think Welker could become a huge asset kind of like Brown in 2001. Impossible to say, but it could happen. I think Thomas will be great too and likely the better player, but who knows.
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    290? I don't believe that. He looks pretty trim, so I'll assume his nfl.com listed weight (270) is pretty accurate (though those weights are never updated).

    That's still huge for a linebacker.
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    PatsFanInVa, I think you're wrong here. The poster could be talking about the first 4 LBs as the core of our defense, not mentioning the young guys and Chad Brown, which would constitute the entire corps.

    Also, there might be some sensitivity to using a word that is so similar to corpse given the advanced aged of some of the corps, particularly Seau and Brown.

    That's all I had to say. It's a lazy Sunday and I'm just kicking back with a Coors listening to the Corrs.:bricks:
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    We'd be absolutely screwed at linebacker without Thomas. But many of us agree that Welker is a very valuable addition, likely to be more than any other addition except Thomas.

    For those who think Meriweather was the #1 addition, I really don't know what to say. Absent major injuries, I don't expect him to be a major contributor this year. This is fine for a first rounder on a top team. For Meriweather to be the top addition as a rookie safety, he'd have to start and be in the mix for rookie of the year. I have no question that a go-to slot receiver and a starting LB who can start at any of 4 positions will be much more valuable.
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    I would say that Welker being under the radar nationally coming in will have the most surprising impact.
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    Geek post of the week. (Even if it's true, that phrasing is still :rofl:-worthy.)

    Actually, he was born Major Major Major. The computer added the fourth one by mistake. :bricks:
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    Yes - I agree he will have a great year - likely the go-to guy for Brady over time... but his productivity - and the productivity of Watson, and of Maroney, and of Faulk, and the ability to take pressure off of Brady - will be the direct result of teams keeping guys back - and often doubleteaming - Moss and/or Stallworth.

    So to me adding a deep threat that we did not have last year is MUCH more important to the success of the offense.
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    Okay, it's been a while, but I thought he was named Major Major at birth, and then got promoted to Major, making him Major Major Major, then got promoted to Major Major Major Major. I have a vague memory of them inventing a rank for him.

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