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  1. Real World

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    Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops

    By KATE BRIQUELET
    Last Updated: 10:18 AM, January 6, 2013
    Posted: 1:47 AM, January 6, 2013



    EXCLUSIVE

    They’re on the dole — and watching the pole.

    Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers, a Post investigation found.

    A database of 200 million Electronic Benefit Transfer records from January 2011 to July 2012, obtained by The Post through a Freedom of Information request, showed welfare recipients using their EBT cards to make dozens of cash withdrawals at ATMs inside Hank’s Saloon in Brooklyn; the Blue Door Video porn shop in the East Village; The Anchor, a sleek SoHo lounge; the Patriot Saloon in TriBeCa; and Drinks Galore, a liquor distributor in The Bronx.


    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/poor_some_ugar_on_me_0Hq1d3iPnvj2RwpsEDS7MN
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    #87 Jersey

    How much of that money will now not be spent on children. Seems like EBT cards are accepted more places than ever. If i am not mistaken the card was meant to stop the fraud from when people would sell their food stamps - seems like nothing has changed and actually it's gotten worse.

    Politicians dropping the ball here - fraud needs to stop. This kind of fraud happens because either the democrats or republicans heavily dominate that state's house and senate. Makes me shake my head in disbelief when I read here in the forum those who love the democrat or republican party. When either of those dominate a house this is the result ... the checks and balances wither away.
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    #87 Jersey

    The state does not regulate who receives the ATM's that take EBT cards.

    Probably all Yankee & Jet's fans

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    We need to tell those who are blessed with EBT cards,

    "This money is not so you can live like everyone else...it's for necessities only"

    Poor people aren't SUPPOSED to have enough money to do fun stuff that costs money. Taxpayers should not be helping ANYONE buy booze, cigarettes, x-rated anything....the money should not be used to fund vacations or trips to Six Flags, Disneyworld, etc..

    WTF? I do not understand why our gov't isn't placing stringent controls on what these cards are used for. But why do I have the suspicion that some of our representatives WANT these people to use the cards to have "fun"?

    And that my friends is very sad.

    And I predict total silence on this from our more liberal members even though they know it's wrong. God forbid we criticize all the "victims" of poverty.
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    The various examples in your scandalous, shocking infographic are only surprising in how little we're talking about, and how rarely this appears to happen. The much-ballyhooed strip club example shows one withdrawl for 45 bucks. Don't think I've ever seen an ATM that dispenses singles... must have been embarassing getting change at the bar (and a club soda.)

    Joe Dollaraire brings down state safety net... details at 11...
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    Is anyone at all surprised at who comes into threads like these, and DEFENDS what's going on? I'm not.
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    Nope...not one iota.

    Guess they don't realize that once is too often and that many ATM's and retailers shouldn't be allowed to accept EBT cards. Not surprising though....
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    EBT cards are not only given to welfare recipients, but in some cases to social security recipients and to the unemployed..

    Suggest you all look at the dates of withdrawal in Icy's post, anecdotal evidence at best.. hardly many transactions at all, comparatively speaking.
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    I chuckle on this board whenever someone starts a thread that criiticizes pubically funded programs because I know liberals will NEVER criticize them...never, ever, ever...never no matter what.

    Now if you think about it, that's insanity because we know for a fact they are all abused.

    Since 2007, I have never read a post from any liberal that criticizes any gov't program for the poor.

    That's 6 years and counting.....and I'm STILL CHUCKLING
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    well at least you know they read the piece and saw this:
    When some see that it's spin control time ...
    if it was republican controlled those spin masters would be in the thread.
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    I'd LOVE to read a liberals explanation as to why it's ok that our democratic reps haven't voted to support this bill.

    Anyone? Or just the typical crickets.....
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    Do you know about the availability of ATM machines in any of these areas??

    Is there any evidence that the money was actually used there??

    "Venues of Vice" interesting term, where is Elliot Ness when you need him??

    They are put in liquor stores and strip clubs for a reason...
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    Are you from New York???
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    They aren't put Darryl ... if you ask for one you can get one ...
    That's the point - there is no control of them and nobody seems to care.

    having done business in inner cities for a long time I know this is not an access issue. There are bodega's on almost every street corner in inner cities. these facilities put them in to cash in on the cash available. That was never the intent of the EBT card.

    When I was younger I would see the bodega's buy the food stamps for 1/2 value. Fraud was rampant so they figured by going to the card fraud would go down ... well how about mandating who can get these machines - not to much for a taxpayer to ask for.
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    Any theories on why ANY poltician wouldn't WANT to restrict where these cards are used Darryl?

    Any criticism at all?
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    Fraud that happens when you've done your best is one thing.

    Fraud that happens because politicians simply could care less is unacceptable IMO.
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    Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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    I thought that EBT cards for welfare recipients were for buying food. But, if you get an EBT card for food you can take it to an atm that accepts EBT cards and get cash? Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose and just make it easier to trade your food stamps for money? I am sure I am missing something here because that would be crazy.
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    #12 Jersey

    The electronic card for food stamps is a different card, I believe. Unemployment money, welfare money and some pension money can be distributed in EBT cards - there are no "rules" as to where you can spend any of those things or what you can buy with them.

    You cannot get cash from a food stamp EBT at a machine.

    It doesn't stop people like from trying to spin it that way, though.
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    You referred to "our democratic reps" as if you were from NY... need more information on this situation before an intelligent response can be made, what type of cards were used and was the money obtained used in the facility where the cash was dispensed..

    You do not know if the money was actually spent in the establishment, nor do you know the actual incidence that this happened...

    As mentioned EBT cash cards can come from unemployment or social security, ebt Food Stamp cards do not dispense cash..

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