Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by BadMoFo, Aug 4, 2008.
Sounds like a solid veteran. Someone better watch they back.
That does sound like a good signing.
I thought we needed more depth on the O-line.
Could be, but comes with baggage. Reiss forgot to mention this:
Light is probably pretty banged up.
Banged up from what? Kareoke?
Sure, but you know BB's rep with these kind of guys.
"Don't care what you did before you got here. Now's the time to get it done"
...something like that.
Stephen Neal. Nuff said.
Poor Chris, we hardly knew ye.
As for Welbourn I like the pick-up despite the baggage. Started all 16 games last year and is versitile at G and T. If he can contribute great. Maybe he could also give Kaczur some good advice being a guy who's been through it.
Who and who?
I like this guy as a player. Was a stud for Philly and solid in KC. He is a versatile player that can play G or RT, another one of those like Ross and Stokes. Like Ross and unlike Stokes he is very athletic. This guy is a solid veteran who is good technically, uses his hands well and is strong and also adept at both pass pro and run blocking. He is more of a position blocker in the run dept than a mauler despite his size. He is quick and sudden in his initial movement and recovers quickly when beat. He is smart and picks up blocking schemes well, also does well on twists and is solid vs blitz. At this point is probably a better G.
You can add to that list: "He was available in the first week of August."
I'm all for optimism, but there is a reason he was unemployed until August 3rd. Hopefully he proves to be decent depth and teams were just scared of baggage, but I will temper my enthusiasm until I see otherwise ...
Is anyone else starting to become a little concerned about our OL? I guess that this is the time to work this thing out, but all this movement at the OL position is a little worrisome. That Matt Light injury is starting to bother me.
Light and Neal have both been out, right? We know Neal has chronic injury issues, but Light is unknown. Easier to plug someone in at guard than LT.
Oh you mean like a guy named Roman Phifer....
That means nothing, how he fits in and performs w/the Pats matters more than when he was available.
Not worried at all. Scar is in control and I have unwavering faith in him.
The fact you had to go back seven years to find an impactful post-August FA signing doesn't tell you something?
Welbourn is a keeper who can be penciled in on our 53 man roster.
FWIW, found a post on this Chiefs board re: Pats' signing of Welbourne. They found it comedic to say the least. Doesn't sound like he was the most regarded lineman:
The Pats are really playing a mean game of musical back up offensive linemen. I don't know of any of the o-linemen they are shuffling in and out right now have a shot in hell in making the roster.
If the Pats are really serious about getting a veteran o-lineman, they will be better off making a trade in a few weeks with a team loaded with back ups.
I thought that when they didn't draft an OL , they were all set. Now with all the guys they have brought in, it looks as if the injury issue might be worst then expected.
But, there is still 4 weeks until the season starts.
Nice link. Those Chiefs fans are actually quite witty. I liked this post regarding Welbourne :
"Brady is wondering what he did to piss off Bellichick."
Sweet more depth on the o-line. BB doing his thing again.
9 1-2 sentence posts from disgruntled Cheif fans. I don't think I would regard that as an overall veiw from a knowledgable fan base.
Dismiss it all you want, but it is a more knowledgeable base than what you will find from this Pats board that has likely never noticed Welbourne's performance in any NFL game he has ever played.
Cough.. Anthony... Clement... cough... warm camp body.
From RotoWorld "Welbourn was an ineffective starter in Kansas City last year and is unlikely to help the Pats. He also has a long history of off-field problems."
Are those the same Kansas City Chiefs
we open against?
All I'm saying is maybe we should withhold judgement until he shows up to practice and plays so we can determine for ourselves if he's worth cutting an UDRFA that has no shot at making the team.
I was reacting to the Billy Mumphrey-esque c0ckeyed optimism that some met this signing with. As a poster above just said, he is just a warm camp body for the OL, a la Clement.
Maybe he ends up catching on as an OL reserve, but given everything I know about the NFL, odds highly favor this being a simple vet signing to cover reps in camp.
I agree with that sentiment. As a fan of the Patriots you have some hope, but as an NFL fan the percentenges work against it. Me thinks releasing Norwell makes it a potential camp fodder move also.
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