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    I call it "A little something for everyone". Not what I think they will do, but a fun offseason never the less. This is they really go for it, realizing that Brady is not getting younger and 2011 may be a lockout the go for broke.

    Franchise Wilfork
    RFA Mankins
    RFA Ghost

    Free Agents
    Sign Julius Peppers
    Sign Bodden

    Draft

    Trade 2011 Raiders pick and Vince Wilfork to Denver for picks #10 & #74 .

    #10 - McClain, ILB, Alabama
    #22 - Cody, NT, Alabama
    #42 - Trade to Denver for Marshall
    #47 -Jerry Hughes, OLB/DE, TCU
    #53 - Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
    #74 - Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse
    #118 - Dennis Pitta, TE, Brigham Young
    #150 - Clay Harbor FB, Missouri State
    #182 - Zoltan Mesko, P, Michigan

    Roster looks something like:

    QB - Brady, Hoyer
    WR- Moss, Marshall, Aiken
    Slot WR - Edelman, Tate
    RB - Maroney, Taylor, Morris
    FB - Harbor
    TE - Baker, Pitta
    LT - Light, LeVoir
    RG - Mankins, Wendell
    C - Koppen, Connolly
    LG - Kaczur, Johnson
    RT - Vollmer

    RCB - Butler, Whilhite, Wheatley
    ROLB - Hughes, Crable
    RDE - Jones, Pryor
    RILB - McClain, Alexander
    NT - Cody, Brace
    LILB - Mayo, Guton
    LDE - Warren, Wright
    LOLB - Peppers, Thomas, Woods
    LCB - Bodden, Springs
    SS - Sanders, Chung
    FS - Merriweather, McGowan

    P- Mesko
    LS - Ingram
    K - Ghost
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    **sigh** Peppers sucks.
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    Sorry, I mean Justin Rogers not Peppers, my bad.
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    I seriously think that those picks would be too much. I would consider us just trading our 2010 or 2011 2nd round picks & Vince Wilfork for Denver's 2010 picks 10 & 74. I would love the oveall draft better, just like that. A 2011 1st roundpck would be too much when we're trading the best & young NT in the league
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    Maybe but the 2011 pick is devalued for two reasons:
    1) It is a year away, picks the following year are not worth as much as picks in this years draft.
    2) 2011 may be a lockout year making the draft even riskier

    One the other hand maybe the Raiders lose every game and a new CBA is reached with slotted draft pick salaries. But that doesn't help my argument so lets pretend that this scenario doesn't exist.
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    Lol yeh it just proves my arguement even more. Why risk a 1st round pick when we could give up a lower pick. We could possibly get an immediate playmaker on offense or defense.
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    Because this is the 'Go for broke scenario', there is no 2011 season.
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    Peppers is a stud, but there is something people need to realize. People who hate on Moss for "not playing hard all the time" would blow a gasket watching Peppers. It isn't that he doesn't give full effort...he just doesn't look like he is giving full effort.

    This one doesn't make a lot of sense to me for a bunch of reasons:
    - If you are going for broke in 2010, Wilfork is your guy...not a bunch of rooks
    - Must not trade Raider pick. 2 words...Patrick Peterson
    - At best you are shuffling the deck chairs with this move. At worst, one or more of these rooks wash out, potentially leaving gaping holes in the defense.
    - Coverage isn't McClain's strong suit and the teams standing between the Pats and title #4 are the Colts, Chargers and Steelers...all passing teams. In fact, these teams could spread the field and get your two 1st round picks off the field a lot.

    I don't think Denver would do this trade, but it would be great for the Pats if they could pull it off.
    2010 - Mitigates the loss of Welker early and supplements his production for the playoff run.
    2011 - Replaces Moss and removes need to spend high draft pick on one of the stud WRs (say it with me again...Patrick Peterson).

    Tate really isn't a slot guy. Doesn't affect your roster makeup though.

    Besides the "Dirty Water" tie-in, what is the point? Morris can lead in a 2-back set and they use OGs in short yardage.

    You cut poor McKenzie before he ever plays a down?

    AD would be gone even if his mom was the coach.

    Good effort. Dump the Wilfork trade, keep the Raider pick, give McKenzie a chance, swap the fullback for a scatback, give AD a train ticket instead of a roster spot and draft a better DE and you've got something.
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    Your right, there is no 2011 season, but im pretty sure that we would still have a draft. Why would we just throw away a (possible) top 5-10 pick? Is Wilfork not that valueable in the game? I think its clear to see that he's the best NT in the league right now.

    That move CLEARLY wouldn't make any sense
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