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Week 17 game at Houston looming as make or break game

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  1. groundgame

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    Assuming Pats lose at INDY, at MIA and at NEW ORLEANS, and arrive at Houston with a 10-5 (4-2 in Div.) record on Week 17, and with the crystal ball showing New York Jets at 9-6 (4-2 in Div.), and MIA out with a 7 losses entering week 17: Pats would need to beat the Texans to go to 11-5, or if the Texans upset the Patriots, hope the Jets lose at home to the Bengals to fall to 9-7 and out of playoffs. If they were both tied at 10-6 the conference tie-breaker employed. The crystal ball is getty fuzzy as we see the Steelers playing at Gillette on Wild Card weekend.
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    Assumptions seem to fuel most of the fan angst hereabouts. I remember the good old days when we assumed nothing and were pleasently surprised and/or magnificently entertained as each eason unfolded.

    One game at a time...
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    I'd prefer we concentrate on beating the 0-5 Titans this week.....that would be the dangerous 0-5 Titans team that went 13-3 last year.....

    I think some folks feel the Titans are going to roll over, which may end up being the case..but I'm certainly not counting on it, especially the way the Pats have played up till now.
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    I can almost guarantee it won't be a make or break game.

    If we're on the border of getting in the playoffs, then we'll be one and done for sure anyway, so who cares.
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    The Pats could also be 13-2 or 3-12. And as the Colts and Saints are likely playoff teams at this point (as would be the Falcons and Ravens for that matter), if the assumption is the Pats lose to likely playoff teams, then what is the point of making it to the playoffs where all teams are playoff caliber?

    I agree with the other posts. Building angst over playoffs with 5 of 16 games down is fairly pointless. There are 32 teams, each with 11 "what-if" scenarios are this point specific to games to be played, then those "what-if's" become significant based on what the other 31 teams do in their "what if" scenarios.
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    crimminy christmas...let's just focus on the Titans in Week 6...who the heck knows what our record or any other record will be at week 17? :rolleyes:

    (looks up to the sky and then walks away mumbling to himself)
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    QFT and :rofl:
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    I can see where you're coming from but I'd have to agree with the posters who say to take one game at a time, we just don't know what the variables will continue to be. You're using the variables established as of now to predict what will continue to happen, we don't know about our injuries or our other opponents injuries etc.

    Even if you are correct--which you may well be, I find it hard to believe you can assume the NYJ will be 9-6, and the Steelers will be here on WC weekend. Those things IMO, are even harder to predict. For instance, who will the NYJ lose to? You're assuming they go 6-4 or 6-5 down the stretch, that's a hard one to understand. Also when Pittsburgh is only 1 game back at 3-2, why do you assume they will not win the division?

    I can appreciate your looking ahead, + the work you put into it to figure it out etc, but it's probably unlikely you hit all these things right on the nose.

    Let's stay positive and take it one game at a time:cool:
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    I'll think about week 17 after the week 16 game.....
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    Hey thanks. Any insight on our week 14 showdown with Kansas City in 2015?
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    That is the least of our worries. Unless we extend some defensive players NOW, by 2016 we will have none under contract. NONE.

    How do you win without anyone playing defense? Playoffs? Playoffs? Forget the playoffs. I'd be happy just to win a game!
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    Every game is a make or break game until it's over.
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    It will be a battle of undefeated teams in which the Pats will win
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    in OT, even tho we lose the coin toss at the end of the game. especially memorable for tom brady's five TD passes after everyone had written him off as washed up after a bad 2014 season...
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    Pretty sure Brady won't be our QB in 2015.
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    Why does everyone think we're going to lose to the Colts? I think we're going to split with Miami, but not this time around. Maybe next time when we go to Miami. But I seriously think we can take Indy.
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    Wanna bet? I have various crystal bars err... balls that can predict a lot. :D
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    Why not? Not saying it's probable, but not impossible.
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    Wanna bet?? :D
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    Sure, I got $1.97 and an old coffee cup saying he will be. TFB @ 38 whippin' TD's like a mofo.
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    Ok. Let me get back to you on the straddle bet once I hear from the other guy who wants to bet that TB will not there. ;)
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    Oxymoron.

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    yea - i agree.

    But dont discount the success of wild card contenders who went on to the SB or even won the SB (Giants 08, Pitt 06, Balt 01, Zona 09, Indy 07)
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    geez...that was, like, tongue in cheek and supposed to be, well, funny... :rolleyes:

    if you're actually taking this seriously, i have no idea whether tommy will be our qb in 2015...he would be 38 at the beginning of the season, which was the same age as Elway, Marino, Tarkenton and Young at the start of their final seasons, when Elway led his team to an SB win, his second in a row. On the other hand, Aikman was 34 at the start of his last season, as was Joe Namath. Bradshaw and Bob Griese were both 35. Dan Fouts and Jim Kelly were 36. Bart Starr and Roger Staubach were 37. Sonny Jurgensen and Johnny U. played until 40 and Warren Moon went all the way to 44.

    so, lighten up. if you want to have a serious discussion about SB era HOF QB longevity in general and TB's in particular, I'm game, but this isn't the thread.
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    "Assuming" we lose to NO, INDY, and MIA? Please. This offense is a few more accurate passes from Tom to catching fire. At worst, we will have 4 losses ( I think 2 or 3) going into that game, which means MAYBE that we will have to win that game for a bye week (considering the Baltimore/Pittsburg/Cincy winner will probably be a 11-5/12-4 team and i know Denver just beat us, but doesn't anyone really see the going 13-3/12-4?). Nevermind the fact that even if this game does matter, do u think Houston will have any chance coming to foxboro in the heart of winter in a game that matters for the Pats, even if by some miracle it matters for the Pats? Your pessimism about losing those aformentioned middle games is highly reactionary, as it is more than likely that Tom and the offense will have kicked it into high gear by or during the Bye week, much like Peyton Manning and the Colts O' did last year. RELAX. HAVE FAITH. 10-5 going into WEEK 17? competing for the PLAYOFFS? R U KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS?
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    Whew.... you never read any of the posts above, did you?

    Maybe we should close this thread before we have more guys wasting their time and effort preaching to the choir amidst attempting sincerely to educate the individual who created this thread.
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    Stupid stupid thread. This team could win any of those three games just as much as they could lose any of the othe rgames they play. Predicting in the NFL is pointless...predicting this team at this point is pointless as well. No one would think the Giants would do what they did in 2007, no one thought P. Manning would have an MVP year after his first third of the season.
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    Agreed.

    This team could be at plenty different places that last weekend. One possibility, yes, is in a must-win situation. But I have a feeling that tonight's gonna be a good night... tonight's gonna be a good, good night.

    Why ruin tonight be worrying about mid-winter ?
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