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  1. Christopher_Price

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    I'd say the Dillon trade was bigger than this. Dillon won the Patriots a Super Bowl. Without him, I don't think they win in 2004.
     
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    Your grade for the Plunkett trade is much too low. The Pats

    got three good starters from this trade. The Plunkett that San Francisco

    received was a struggling quarterback who had the heck beaten

    out of him in New England. He was released by San Francisco. Plunkett

    finally reached the pinacle in Oakland.
     
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    bigger trades.........

    jim plunkett for draft picks
    drew bledsoe for draft pick
    getting corey dillon
    getting randy moss
    getting wes welker
    trading away the chance to draft jerry rice
    trading away the chance to draft cortez kennedy
    trading away the chance to draft russel maryland
    trading away a 1st rounder for belichik
    leon gray for draft picks
    russ francis for draft picks
    mike haynes for draft picks

    just to get started.........so no......not even close


    dude.......you need to learn a little more about past history of the new england patriots
     
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    don't forget deon for a #1.
     
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    Tough to judge considering we don't know all of the pieces i.e who we traft/use picks to accuire.

    The Herschal Walker deal is probaly considered one of the best trades in history, however, until we saw how these picks panned out we didn't know how good it was.
     
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    I agree, without Moss we would never of gotten to 18-0, but with Dillon we would never of won a SB which is the whole point.
     
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    Hey Einstein. We're not dealing with hypothetical trades here--trading away the "chance to draft someone doesn't count." And the Russ Francis and Mike Haynes trades ... as well as the first four trades you list there are all in the column. Not trying to rank them myself--just opening up the floor for the debate. Maybe you should read the column before you make a statement like that--sheesh.
     
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    In my opinion super bowl trumps 18-0 any day
     
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    they weren't hypothetical trades.........russell maryland and cortez kennedy were clear choices that the pats would have been making with those picks........but in any event, if you call them hypothetical, what does it make the cassel trade? no clue until the final value of both sides of the trade are defined........

    the bottom line is that the matt cassel trade is way down the list.......it is a historically insignificant event

    and someone also mentioned deion branch.....that was bigger, also

    hell, one could even argue that trading rich gannon away for a 4th round pick was a bigger deal

    but the cassel deal is one of the pats top 5 deal in the last few weeks
     
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    It's interesting to look at that list and see how drastically the value of draft picks has changed over the years. Jim Plunkett gets traded for three ones, and a two? What would a hall-of-fame quarterback have been worth back then?! Obviously the relative value of draft picks has changed due to free agency - and better evaluations of college prospects - but that is still an eye-opener, head-scratcher, whatever you want to call it.


    Also - who voted for the Doug Flutie trade; Mrs. Flutie?
     
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    HA! I like that. No, no votes were cast by the Flutie family. Thought I'd throw the BC diehards out there a bone......:D
     
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    Agreed. apologies to Randy Moss but,
    At least one all time great Patriot, maybe two, maybe three...

    Clayborn, Brock, Fox.

    Plus Owen was a decent backuo who even started some, while Ivory had some good years rushing and returning.

    Hershel Walkeresque, if you ask me. Plus they could have picked up Plunkett for a bag of chips a few years later. His resurgence was unprecedented.

    EDIT: thought they were in order, sorry.

    It's OK to pick something that happened before 2001, Chris.

    I got your back!:D
     
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    The biggest non-deal done by the Pats was letting Curtis Martin go to the Jets.
     
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    Anyone want to remember Joe Kapp? You want a better one, former ROY Carl Garrett to Dallas for running back Duane Thomas. Trade was rescinded a few days later when Thomas refused to get into a particular stance during practice.
     
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