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  1. Christopher_Price

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    A strange quote --not sure what's going on here. He's entering the final year of his contract -- maybe he's tried and failed to get an extension. Maybe it's just a case of homesickness. Maybe he's just speaking tongue-in-cheek with a reporter who is not used to his delivery. I don't know. Trying to figure it out as we speak.

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    Funny that you mention Jarvis today Chris...I just read a cool article on him a minute ago....

    Ex-Tiger wants to get back to Super Bowl | HoumaToday.com | The Courier | Houma, LA


    Personally I think it IS time for him to go to a team that can use him as a starter,He is simply way too talented to ride the pine his whole career - More than half the teams in the NFL with a less than modest DL would have him on the front line as a starter.

    I still think Green could be a part of a deal before camp is up,maybe to get a player like Burgess in here.
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    Chris, it sounds like he just wants to go back to his home town. There is nothing wrong with that. Who knows? It's a long time between now and the end of the upcoming season. He might just change his mind.
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    That seems like a harmless comment to me.

    seems like he is saying he is in his last year of a contract and that it would be nice to play in front of his hometown....I don't think this means he wouldn't negotiate with the Pats. Just that it would be fun to play in New Orleans.

    More like he realizes how many free agents we have and that he likely will get more money elsewhere but not that he wouldn't be willing to return
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    I think the term, "it is wjhat it is" comes to mind here. Hey, he's been here a long time, and is on the downside of a pretty good career. Green is one of the good guys. Good teammate, a player who plays to his potential, and a better guy off the field than on it. If you remember he's taken the time to realize there is more to life than football. He's taken classes, done interships, etc to prepare himself after he's done.

    Its only natural to think about going "home", and if he can get another year or two, and play for the Saints, god bless. But he's a smart guy and knows that his time with the Pats is done. His playing time will go down some with the emergence of some of the backups like Smith Wright, and now Brace, and his cap, while not high, won't justify keeping him on.

    I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory
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    Interesting quote from a really good guy. I've got some calls in now to try and get to the bottom of it. As for my opinion? I agree with Patfranken. He's been around the league for awhile now -- he's going to be 31 in January -- and I think he's smart enough to see the writing on the wall. There are a bunch of contracts that are up at the end of the season, and he may not be a priority. If he wants to return home and get paid, then I say good for him.
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    The reality of things is that he probably has more value to another team other than the Patriots and they will pay him more. I don't know if Green would be a full time starter here even if Seymour leaves. I could see him starting on a number of 3-4 and 4-3 teams though.

    With the number of free agents the Pats have to deal with after this year, the likelihood of Green returning is slim. I wouldn't be surprised if he was used as trade bait during camp if the Pats think they can pry away an OLB like Derrick Burgess. Not likely to happen since player for player trades aren't common this time of year, but I wouldn't be shocked.
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    He is 31 but I dont know if the end of the line is really as close as some say,I think he could have at least another productive 3 or 4 years in this league if given a chance on an every down situation.
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    I dont really care what his intentions are after this season is over. I just dont get the need to make a declaration prior to this season that this is his last in NE. The comment wasnt necessary, it served no purpose, it stands to possibly burn one very strong bridge, and it could only serve as a distraction. I feel the same way about a player's retirement. You retire when youre done. You dont talk about it before hand. You start talking about retirement, you may as well just hang 'em up. This is a strange statement to read. And having read it, I kindof hope Green was actually misquoted.
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    A team like New Orleans that seems to perenially be in need of a better defense to go with their already good offense would obviously be interested in Green. Both sides benefit from the local guy returning home angle, plus Green finally would get a chance to start. So a move to the Saints would make sense for both the team and the player.

    On the other hand he could have simply been talking off-handedly, or simply referring to the fact this is the last year of his contract. If he does move on than I say thanks for the production and effort, and good luck. But it is certainly not a done deal yet, a lot of things could happen between now and March to change any current plans.
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    His cap hit for 09 is a manageable $2.5m so a cut is unlikely unless he is just done. I suppose he could be traded for a OLB who can make an impact. I like Jarvis. I dont expect him to be a pain in the locker room over this. He was hurt for the most part of 08 which cut into his normal production and maybe there are some lingering complications which has him down.

    I'd like to cut him some slack and think that he has a good rebound year ahead of him. Maybe he is depressed over the thought of two-a-days....
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    Hopefully you find some clarification for us, at the moment it's just another 'sad' in our Patriots saga.
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    How many pass rushers are we going to lose? We may as well just have 11 men in coverage :)
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    As I pre-supposed in my initial post, I think it was slightly misconstrued.
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    and what way would that be?
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    You are being too kind, Chris. Where there is smoke, there is fire. He and his agent are hacked off with the Pats as Jarvis does not have a long-term deal. In frustration, #97 cries on the shoulder of a hometown scribe. This oozes Pedro talking to a reporter from the D.R. under the mango tree.

    With that, in order to avoid losing any kind of leverage with not only the Pats, but with potentially other teams, the wonder agent follows the spin control playbook step-by-step. in addition, the last thing he wants is for his client to be cut or traded to a crappy situation.

    I don't think Jarvis is trying to shoot his way out of town by any means, but I do think he let his true feelings known- and that can't be misconstrued.

    Does NO have any decent pass-rushing LBs? How old is Pat Swilling? :p
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    I think Pissah means when it says "he wants to end his career as a Patriot" that it could mean he wants to leave the organization and not retire as of yet but go to another team like the Saints for example.

    I certainly hope this team does not get stubborn and let Seymour,Wilfork and Green walk or this team gets mediocre on defense really fast in 2010
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    Thats definitely not what I meant....He said he wants to play his entire career for the Patriots...lol.

    I think it would be highly unlikely that all 3 walk. One of Seymour or Wilfork would be tagged though I guess that could be Mankins.
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    There is a comment that should draw nothing more than a big yawn. With the exception of the small group of fans who think he is better than Seymour I think everbody figures that this is his last year with the Patriots.
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    There is far from a guarantee that Seymour is resigned and that could mean that Jarvis would take his place if necessary,I would rather see Jarvis there than a rookie unless the team can sign a big name IF Richard leaves.
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    His contract is up.

    You could make 4-5 different headlines out of what he said.

    He's basically a 4-3 DE, so he's always been a luxury for us.

    We don't have the linebackers to play a 4-3 often and we're not getting the pass rush frpm our LBs in the 3-4, so he doesn't solve our base defense problem.

    I'm surprised he never went to a 4-3 team, frankly.
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    The prospect of losing Jarvis too doesn't sit well w/ me. I have always been a big JG fan. I think he is worth his pay, if not a little more.

    I'm sure there's a decent plan in place for the future of the DL, but it isn't making me any less anxious for some good news. Too bad I think it'll be a little while before there's any good news to hear about the future of these 3.
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    I think DEFINATELY at least one DL is gone next season (Green,Wilfork,Seymour),I can't see the team keeping all three and having cap space to improve elsewhere.

    I think the odds of keeping all 3 would be at about 5% with keeping 2 of them at about 90% and losing all 3 at 5% as well.

    And that is not including keeping Mankins which is another story....
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    Chill out. THe guy is in the last year of his contract and he has a right not to sign an extension if he misses home and wants to play for another team.

    It is an odd quote and he says in print it doesn't come across the way he meant it, but he still has the right to say it. I doubt if it is a distraction to say this is his last year. When he retires and then comes back, maybe, but players leave their old teams every year.
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