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    Who is "Sue Al Gore" ... name sounds Muslim to me. :p
     
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    You'd think that a lifelong weather guy on TV and the founder of the Weather Channel would have some sort of formal degree in Meteorology or some climate science wouldn't you?

    This guy right here is the prototypical denier. His life experience is reciting on TV what an actual meteorologist tells him to say, oh and cracking jokes with the sports guy, yet his opinion is valid in Republican circles.
     
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    Yes, I prefer MIT professor Richard Lindzen. Who said "An Inconvenient Truth is antithesis of scientific thinking.". He also said, "Intelligent people see right through this [man made global warming] but, the educated are vulnerable.". You got to love that line.
     
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    James Hansen at NASA has been fisked enough to have to wear suspenders.

    Even by teenage girls. 15-Year-Old Byrnes Outsmarts NASA?s Global Warming Alarmist James Hansen | NewsBusters.org

    Of course, [strike]global warming[/strike], er, climate change is a religion for people without religion. Belmont Club Earth versus the suits It's amazing what secularists will end up believing. I wish they had stuck with the Trinity and the Virgin Birth.

    It's a lot less costly to my wallet.

    But at least James Hansen is consistent. The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : The Sainted James Hansen Democrats aren't so commendable, it seems.
     
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    Screwing all the people that did not vote for him in the process ... you can't make this stuff up.
    Al Gore should run again with Michael Moore as his VP this time.
    2 people who talk a lot of **** and fill their wallets doing it.
     
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    From Michael's Wikipedia link: (Bolding added by me)

    Assembling 16 experts and then discounting what 15 say in favor of the 16th is about the most perfect example of cherry picking I can think of.
     
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    Ah yes the unsourced citation from Wiki, of course the editor of the climate scinece page from Wiki has been called out for not allowing information that doesn't support the MMGW modeling.

    Here is the list of 31,000 scientist who think Algore and his gofer MR HAnsen are wrong.

    xox J wall xox
     
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    Unsourced, o rly?


    # ^ "Curriculum Vitae of Richard Siegmund Lindzen". http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/CV.pdf. Retrieved on 16 June 2009.
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    # ^ "Publications". http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/PublicationsRSL.html. Retrieved on 2007-04-05.
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    # ^ a b Lindzen, Richard S. (February 23,2004). "Canadian Reactions To Sir David King". The Hill Times. Canadian Reactions To Sir David King by Richard S. Retrieved on 2007-04-05.
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    I'll never understand why you tell such stupid, easily dismissed lies.
     
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    Why would The Weather Channel be considered a credible source??? :rolleyes:

    Oh, and btw, the coldest summer in 78 years now in northern Europe. They're writing books now in several countries: 2009: the year without a summer.

    Temp right now is 59 F. It's 9:03 PM, Sunday; high today was 68 F. Normal high for this date (87 year average) is 74 F.


    Wish global warming would hurry up!!!! Freezing our ______ off!!!!


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    So which source referred to the bolded statement?

    What of the censorship by wiki?
     
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    I'll be happy to answer that right after you explain to me why I should be defending Michael's link. I was pointing out the stupidity of putting up a link that not only doesn't defend your position it actually refutes it.
     
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    Can't speak to the link since I don't do wiki. I do know that Lidzen has great credibility. More than Hansen IMO since Hansen is so politically driven, and has been shown to be wrong on his data sets on a few occasions.
     
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    The link was just the obligatory "link" "link" link they always seem to need to function. It shows his credentials which was the obvious point of it. It's not my source of what professor Lindzen has said on the subject. I've actually heard the man speak for an hour and take Q&A.
     
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    I'll let you know how this lawsuit turns out. I hope that Al Gore defends his 'global warming' BS.
     
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    Hard to defend his BS if the case is thrown out...I doubt it ever gets to trial.
     
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    It's like Obama's BC cases in federal courts OR Obama's bogus claim on created jobs, isn't it?


    Obama and Al Gore don't have to PROVE anything BUT libbies here want NEPATRIOT to BACK UP everything that he says. Is it wonderful?????:singing::singing::singing::singing:
     
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    Frankly it's a pain in the azz ... your the forum hemroid.
     

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