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    "..and we will use them against you, believe that" ( pro-illegal demonstrator)Pro-Illegal Demonstrator Says Illegals Will Kill Americans with Pickaxes

    Bottle thrown at cops:
    Pro-Illegal Alien Demonstrators Attack Cops

    Though I disagree with this bill as it's written (reportedly closely aligns with federal law anyway) it's really a damned-if-you-do etc situation.
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    How about if they were Tea Partiers? You know, the people being described as racists, and terrorists. Imagine if they were violent, threatening to murder people, while throwing **** at the cops. :mad: Baaaaaaa!!!

    This is pretty simple stuff. Do you have the legal right to be here, yes or no. If the answer is no, then get the **** out.
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    Danm right.......
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    This will get much worse, I fear, but fakrissakes! Can the over-dramatic bloodletting! One woman says she and her friends (I wonder if they agree) are going to take up pick axes against Gringos. The other alarming act was a water bottle attack. JEEZIZ, try to contain yourselves Infowars drama queens, and call me when the trouble really starts (and it will)

    I liked the ZZ Top wannabe biker clown. True Patriot. Everyone in Arizona is about to lose their minds. Can't we just give it back to the Mexicans along with Texas (but we get to keep the Grand Canyon, OK?)
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    +10 and anyone who waxes all poetic about fairness had better do their homework on LaRaza. Here's what I don't like about that bill: just as the quote indicates this whole thing will be done with political correctness and fairness and the only way to be fair and politically correct about it will be to detain legal citizens like trophy catches. Illegal aliens will suddenly morph; see the sudden appearance of Jihad Jane.

    Martial law's coming to AZ- disarming its citizens, all in the name of crime prevention. This is a sh*tstorm. DHS's janet Napolitano wants to deploy drones to the TX border.
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    If the illegals come out in mass ICE should bring in tractor trailors, fill them up and send them back
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    The inmates are running the asylum, and they have plenty of allies on the left who are just helping them make it happen. 500 years from now, when historians analyze what went so wrong that sent the U.S. into a spiral from which we couldn't recover, this will be near the top of a very short list.
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    It is interesting that the left is blamed for this situation, all the while the last president who declared amnesty was the deified, petrified.. Ronald Reagan.

    The bottom line here is that no one wants to adopt a policy, as whoever does will piss off a specific constituency.. the same principal for Cuba et al.
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    Mexican Tea Partys Are Racist
    Mexican Tea Partys Promote Violence
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    I hope Taco Bell sticks around.
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    Why thats the Mexican McDonalds.
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    Yeah...and those liberal mega-farms, meat packers, construction companies, hotel chains, and the entire city of Las Vegas. Liberal bastids!
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    I love Taco Bell ... Chalupa's and the Crunchwrap Supreme :D

    On a serious note ... the problem I have whenever this debate comes up is concern for the children.

    That's always my main concern with most topics ... children's lives getting shattered here.

    I know several families who have lost a father or mother to deportation ... and it's the children that suffer.

    Not to say that children should sway the debate
    ... but they need to be a consideration here ... Hunter is wrong.
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    Tell me, when one of those types of entities gets raided, who is it that complains the most? I remember some plant in the Boston area got raided a few years ago and a couple illegals were arrested. It sure as hell wasn't the conservatives who were whining and complaining in the aftermath, was it?
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    Ronald Reagan never visualized those Scumsucking Bastards in Washington including McCain / Bush doing absolutely nothing while America was being Invaded by the Criminal Aliens, Reagan wanted amnesty but he never would allowed the Invasion he would have had the Military protecting our country.
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    I don't know who hunter is, while i'm anti illegal alien that doesn't mean that i don't feel bad for the kids involved. But there are kids HERE born in the UNITED STATES that have suffered because some illegal alien took less money to do a job their father or mother did. IA drive down wages in this country, just look at the list wistah put up a lot of those people earned middle class wages then the companies (i blame them just as much) braught in and hired IA for much less money. Now everyone makes sh1t wages.
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    We often hear from "dip sh!ts" what a wonderful place Mexico is from the way they describe it you would think that the Americans would be sneaking in there during the night.

    12 million aliens sneak out of paradise after dark.
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    How funny they're even protesting...isn't it?

    I mean, they're not even protected by the US constitution! It's akin to someone protesting outside your door in order to move into your house.
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    They know the Liberal Democrats will back them up, they're criminals.
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    but not sluts....:bricks:
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    I don't understand the logic "i'm here against the law but i want my rights. I want a drives license, health care, and education etc. Same goes for they're supporters, what part of "Illegal" don't they understand. And for me its not about race, if millions of Canadians were coming in here illegally id feel the same way. And i'm sure if millions of Americans were sneaking into Canada they'd feel the same way also.
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    I'm not even going to get into it with you guys - you're having too much fun to want to spoil.

    Let me tke one minute out of the back-slapping, good-ole-boy camaraderie to point out the "double standard," however.

    At least half, if not all, of those here who are now happily convinced that every anti-immigration law protestor is violent and every protest is going to turn into an assault with pick-axes and shovels are the very same people who were the first and the loudest to point out that any Tea Party protestor with a sign advocating "Next time we bring our guns" or wearing Nazi regalia was an abberation, a very small percentage, not worth talking about and, most assuredly, not representative of the entire group.

    This, of course, is entirely different, I'm sure.

    If you've even bothered to read the article cited you'll have realized that the organizers of this particular demonstration tried very hard to prevent those who were unruly or advocating violence and aided the police in attempting to hold people in check. Which is more than I can say for most of The Tea Party Organizers who did things like stand around and watch their protestors throw money and hurl insults at an MS victim who'd been knocked to the ground.

    If you're not beyond actually recognizing similar behaviours you'll also be aware that the conservative group who is now busy sending copies of this video and dire warnings to law enforcement agencies bear a striking resemblance to those on the left whom you recently decried for perpetuating violence and threats by talking about it. (I refer, of course, for those of you who've forgotten already, to the disgust you all showed to the congressmen and women who had the nerve to talk about the death threats and racist phone calls they'd received from opponents of the health care bill.)

    Double standard, indeed, Harry.

    Enjoy yourselves now, don't let me ruin your fun.
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    It kind of reminds me of the people who opposed the AZ law, pretty much saying that every single policeman was going to harass every single person walking down the street, demanding identificiation from you each and every time you leave your house.
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    If that was what those people actually said, you would be right...but it wasn't. What most of them said was that it had the potential to cause those things because it was giving the police the right to do those things.

    I see the similarities, however, and I'll be sure to write more clearly in the future.
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    I'll remember this post next time one person at a rally starts something. Or maybe it depends on who's involved in the rally? Or who says what perhaps. That's the part you don't get.
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    How odd.
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    This isn't about score-keeping. It doesn't matter who it is or what the rally or protest is for. The important part is that Infowars (and you for buying into it, I suppose, although my post was more directed at Infowars) was being over-dramatic because it was ONE person making a threaT SHE COULDN'T CARRY OUT and was more metaphoric than actual, IMO. The other "dangerous situation" was ONE person throwing a water bottle.

    The police were acting strangely docile, though. I'm more used to cops over-reacting abusively in these situations. I'll give you that.

    NBo offense to you personally. I do not support anyone in that rally because I don't even know what they were exactly protesting. Do they want full amnesty? Do they want Arizona given back to Mexico? Are they worried about cops bothering Americans of Mexican decent?
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    No one here is saying anything about the illegal protesters being violent. We're laughing at the fact they have the marbles to protest! Let's protest to protect CRIMINALS!!:rolleyes:

    YEAH, that makes sense! Double:rolleyes:
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    Infowars was merely citing 2 other sources, one was out of Phoenix and the other was ALIPAC which though obviously biased, the event's still right there. I used the infowars link because the very beginning cites the Texas Historical Soceity and gives some background on The San Diego Plan, something I personally wasn't aware of really. History matters when it comes to most current events. Look up Seattle sometime.

    EDIT: So next time one tea partyier says something nasty you'll take the same stance of course ;)
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