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    There are so many guys I see on the gameday thread who said we should spend some big money on picking up the big name free agents in the offseason, especially the pass rushers. Ok, let's see if that will really helps a team to win more games, how about let's use the example of the "Dream Team", the Eagles? Today, there 100 million dallor man Vick just went down for the second straight game with a broken hand, their defense, which is loaded with big name free agent corners and pass rushers, failed to intercept one of the most intercepted QB in the league which is Eli manning, and let gaints put up some good scores. So to all those people who want the front office to spend big money on big names, no, it will not help the team win more games, Andy Reid is already paying for it, his dream team is 1-2 and we are 2-1, glad the Jets also lost today, Oakland did us a huge favor. Now we can only hope we can bouce back from this week's lose aginist oakland next week, and the bills will give the Jets the same treatment when they face them~~~


    P.S. Did Vick really complaint about the refs not making the call to protect him? Does he realize he is an ex-con and people around the country still hates him? And most importantly, who the hell does he think he is, like he is thinking the refs is going to protect him like they protect Brady????:confused:
     
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    Also forget to metion the Falcons, all that picks they give up for Jones, and what's happening? 1-2 and lost to the Bucs. We spend 1.5 million for big AL and 3 million for Ocho, should not expect that much from them from the beginning period, there will be no free agent pick up as a huge factor as Moss in many years around the league to come......
     
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    "we are not so bad yet". The "yet" is not needed. We beat Miami in Miami (a traditionally difficult place to win in for the Patriots). We beat a SD team many believe is in the upper echelon of teams. And we barely lost to a division rival that was 2-0 and playing well coming into this game. We not only are not bad yet, we are pretty good despite some shortcomings. With the offense we have we will win plenty of games. And just a marginal up tick in defensive play and we will be among the best teams. As far as "yet", all teams fit into the category of "not bad yet". All teams as of week 3 are still an unknown. If week 3 determined who was good and who is not, the Patriots under Pete Carroll was the best team in the league every year with the possible exception of Miami (a team which was often the best team in Sept and lousy in Dec).

    I don't know if this is something BB originated or he's just aping it (paraphrased): "You are never as bad as it seems after a loss, and never as good as it seems after a win". Everyone take a deep breath, relax, and let's see what we can do next week. There is still A LOT of football to be played and plenty of improvement possible.
     
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    i think the pats D is really bad, but then again they've looked this bad before and then rebounded as the season went on

    my chargers, also have looked really bad in septembers before, yet rebounded


    but i've never seen rivers throw this many ints to start a season, so weird
     
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    Maybe the Chargers ought to go back to those dark blue helmets....easier to see in the sun :)
     
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    i want the royal blues back!!
     
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    Got Rationalization?
     
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    I think the basic point the OP is making is that nearly every team in the league has some significant question marks at this point.
     
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    Except the Packers who just keep winning although the defense was pretty bad the first two games.
     
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    Their passing defense is 31st in yardage after 3 games. I wonder why they're not ready to cut their Pro Bowl pass rusher, two Pro Bowl CBs, and Pro Bowl safety (who was put on IR after week 2).:eek:
     
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    I have come to the conclusion after watching many games through season 2011, that it's going to be a strange one affected completely by the lockout. You may as well throw away defense for 2011.
     
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    wouldn't doubt it
     
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    so, you still like Norv?
     
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    The point i was trying to make is to make a point at paying high price for big name free agents doesn't win the team any more games than it was suppose to win, the Eagles are paying the high price tag for nothing right now, except for publicity. Our team have a lot of injuries right now, losing AH on the offensevise side of the ball and Chung on the defensive side hurt mighty today, the only thing I don't understand is why we are refusing to use our fresh new legs we drafted, if we were orginally suppose to draft Ingram, he is doing well for the saints, based on what Reidley put out during the pre season, I don't see why BB couldn't give him a shot~~~
     
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    They're not ready to cut these guys b/c they have seen the obvious results and talent level that they have. That is something that we have still not seen, with the exception of McCourty last yr.

    Besides that, they can rush the passer. That is definitely something that we have yet to see, actually since the departure of Richard Seymour.

    While your general point is well made and understood, I don't necessarily agree with the comparison to the GB Packers.

    Maybe the N.O. Saints..but then again, they have G.Williams as their DC who can still instill a pass rush. Besides that, I am sure that they are very concerned on their defensive side of the ball too.

    Actually, to be honest--I would suspect that both teams are expecting a major improvement. I don't know that we can expect that anytime soon. They are likely thinking that they have had a few defensively poor performances, while this team doesn't have anywhere near the talent level as 2 shut-down CB's, or any kind of pass rush.
     
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    Not to metion while the Bills slicing though our D like hot knife though cheeses, we are doing the same to their D, I am pretty sure we only lost be a FG, not some huge 2-3 TD gaps. So needless to say the lockout is having a great impact on how bad the D has played generally around the league right now
     
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    While I agree that it is having some impact for sure, I personally can't blame our defensive struggles on the lockout. It may be making a bad defense that much worse, but I don't buy the theory that is the majority reason.
     
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    People on here are literally calling for McCourty to be inactive for a few games. Past play obviously means nothing to the disgruntled fan.
     
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    i like norv as much as i liked coryell

    san diego's problems have always seemed to extend well beyond whatever the coach is doing

    i suspect the water supply lol
     
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