I wasn't sure I wanted to start a whole new thread on this but decided too since this topic could take off in a number of different directions. There is no issue that fires me up more than this illegal immigration issue. As some of the links that I will post will show, people who you would expect to be allies of Bush, such as Rush Limbaugh, are coming out strong against him. As I've mentioned before, I voted for Bush twice. The second time my biggest concern was statements he had made about amnesty for the illegals (although he refused to call them illegals). It remained my biggest concern and someone advised Bush to keep his mouth shut about it before the election. This first post is a transcript of a segment from Rush Limbaugh's show on 15MAY06. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_051506/content/immigration_stack_1.guest.html No matter what any of you think about Rush, there is no doubt he is an astute follower of politics and sees what is going on; fully understanding what is really going on quicker than most. But here he is pointing out how most of America is opposed to Bush's immigration policy yet Bush charges ahead with amnesty plan and refuses to acknowledge the forces allied against him. There are some strange bedfellows allying here. Rush correctly is asking "What does Bush know that keeps him from acting the way most of us want him to?" Rush wasn't saying this to offer Bush any cover, like the rest of us he seems truly baffled that Bush seems to be completely undeterred from commiting political suicide. This next post is from Neil Boortz' site. Pay attention to the letter to the editor about midway down. I think putting the illegal immigration issue at the local level is a great way of explaining what is going on. http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html Small correction, this link is to the main page, to see the 15MAY06 entry you will have to go to the archives link on the left. Today's page is good too though! 16MAY06 Lastly to keep it relatively short here is David Frum's blog from the national review. Pay attention to what he wrote on 15MAY06. http://frum.nationalreview.com/ Take a look at these and then go back to your favorite TV show, video game, or check out the latest Patriots news in the other forum. It is what so many of us frogs do while the government turns up the heat of the water we are swimming in....and the government is grateful that we are so disengaged. Evil is allowed to proliferate when good men do nothing.