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  1. Peter Pat

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    I am down on Watson right now. I think he is a great kid, and plays with heart, but his hands are getting worse. He is having problems getting open on single coverage. (Yes I know he broke open in the 3rd quarter, and Brady should have hit him for an easy TD, but Brady had an awfull throw)

    He has clearly not stepped up this year like he was predicted to. I think Graham is clearly still the better TE, even at pass catching, and I think Thomas is also a better recieving TE.

    Watson just has been so lost since he came back from injury, and even before he was not lighten it up.

    THis is a pivotal game for him, I do not have much faith in him now.
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    I'd lighten up. He's a had a good year but has really gotten the crap beaten out of him from consistently being the only real threat. This is essentially only his second year and I think he is still pretty hurt form the injury that made him miss those games.
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    Yes,Watson is the ''fumble man'' :(
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    Watson has had an up and down season, but I still think he's important to our passing game.

    You can't look at the stats and say anything but that.
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    I doubt he's running routes that are any different than before. I think it's his newly sore knee that's the difference.

    I know you often look to place blame on the OC, but Watson's injury is a far more likely cause than playcalling here, NEM.
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    He did make a rather important catch yesterday -- one of those catches that goes completely unnoticed because the announcers did not talk about it much and they didn't even show a replay. It was not a perfect pass by any means, and he made a nice play on it, to make it 2d and 1 on the 4, on the final touchdown drive. He doesn't make that nice catch, and it's 2d and 10 on the 13 and scoring at touchdown there becomes a lot harder.
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    He's INJURED.
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    Covered, and covered. It's the Cover 2 defense!
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    Show me some more of Dave Thomas. Watson gives me a near heart attack hoping he wont fumble the ball again.
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    I tihnk this might be a thomas game with the cover 2 defensive scheme.
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    Earlier in the season is when Graham was injured. Now Watson has been injured. I think that's a big part of it.
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    He was second on the team in recieving. He had almost 50 catches and missed three games at the end of they year. He fumbled the ball 3 times all year and the Pats only lost 1. I think you're making it out to be a lot worse than it is. He had the 4th most catches for AFC TEs. Watson is still young and will improve more and more.
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    I think Ben Watson is going to be a big star. Give him a whole season without injury and a couple of first-rate WRs so that the opposition defense can't focus on him and you'll see what he can do. He'll be great at YAC--just watch.

    Speaking of first rate WRs, we seem to have two excellent #2s, or one excellent #2 (Caldwell) and a good number 3 (Gaffney). I think we still need a number one and perhaps Jackson will turn out to be that guy--who knows.

    I also think we've barely scratched the surface with Maroney. When Brady starts throwing to him regularly, we're going to be very pleased with the result, and the rest of the league won't know how to defense him.

    What amazing about this season is that about 2/3rds of the time, we haven't played very well, but we've still won. Brady hasn't been sharp, except for a couple of games. Don't know why, but that's the way I saw it. Some of this has to do with the Branch/Givens departures, not to mention the time wasted trying to bond with Doug Gabriel.

    Even if we lose all of our free agents, I think we're in excellent shape for next year. Time to start bringing on some younger LBs, perhaps, start looking for a real replacement for Harrison and pick up a good CB by free agency, and one by draft. But all in all, I think we can feel confident we'll be in the hunt next year.
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    could be, so it could be a "what have you done for me lately"

    I have been impressed with grahams hands lately
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    I, too believe Thomas should be getting the ball more. In that one game he showed his potential with that great TD catch.
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    Watson hasn't had the year many expected in the preseason, but he had a very good year before he went down with injury. He had a few games with fumbling problems, but overall it was a pretty good season.
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    I've always thought that Graham had decent hands. He got the bad wrap because of a few drops, but that's now what's happening to Watson in a way.

    I hope we do resign Graham though. We've seen the benefit of having three good TEs this year, and I'd like to keep that luxury. And Graham's blocking would be hard to replace.
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    I agree, Graham is what I call a gamer, shows up in the big games, he's a team player that makes sacrafices blocking which hurts his numbers and takes a toll on his shoulders. I like both watson and graham's versatility in splittign wide into the slot, i believe it puts stress on the defensive scheme.

    If and when watson's knee is healthy I don't know why they have never tried an end around with him when he's lined up in the slot.

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