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  1. Harry Boy

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    I don't think anyone really cares how we got that information. As long as Osama is dead, we're ok.
     
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    That topic has been discussed at length ... most say it doesn't help and I guess at times it can.
     
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    From the article.. maybe I am reading it wrong.

    It does not specify what tactics were used.. a real stretch by Jim Hoft



    The esteemed Mr. Hoft..

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    Serious question. If waterboarding was proved to be effective, who would be okay with it?
     
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    The wife of the guy in the picutre floating down from the 70th floor of the World Trade Center flapping his arms trying to fly then splattering like a watermelon on The Side Walks Of New York.
     
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    The right is duped again, as the video was edited and Panetta did not even use the word “waterboarding,” and he certainly did not say that information from waterboarding “led to bin Laden.” Half azz Hoft simply made that up out of nothing. Panetta specifically said that most of the intelligence that led to bin Laden was put together without using torture.

    Panetta’s very next sentence, directly following the section that Hoft clipped for his misleading video, was:


    Fooled again, when will they ever learn??? Are they really that stupid???
     
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    He "thinks" that they could of gotten Bin Laden without it.

    He is saying it did happen and did work. Just that it could of happened with out it, but no one will ever know
     
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    People will say anything to stop being tortured. So, how do you trust any information you get?

    How do you get people on your side when you cannot hold the moral high ground?
     
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    I don't support waterboarding of humans. But thankfully, terrorists aren't considered human.
     
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    Liberals would allow 553 humans to die rather than make one savage killer uncomfortable for ten minutes.

    The liberal brain never ceases to amaze me.

    Fragile little women are taken out into the streets of the putrid disgusting Middle East on a regular basis, they are lashed with a whip and then other so called "humans" throw rocks at them until they are DEAD, The Messed Up Liberal Brain Goes Silent.

    Screaming men are taken out into the streets of the same filthy rotten Middle East they are forced to their knees and another "savage human" carves off their gurgling weeping head with a knife, The Messed Up Liberal Brain Goes Silent

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    Do Unto Others As They Would Do Unto You
     
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    Fantasies are fun. Play in your make-believe world, perhaps you can ride unicorns and hug care-bears.
     
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    Waterboarding is a war crime, but not when we do it.
     
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    So is illegally entering another country to assassinate a person. Also, those drones killing civilians is a war crime as well.
     
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    True, but at least you can make a moral case as to why the above are appropriate/better than the alternative.
     
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    Right, blowing little children's bodies apart with a drone is much more moral than putting a wet towel on some one's head and trying to get them to tell you something.
     
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    Well, sure, if you want to make an argument that's pure sophistry on its face.

    The issue you seem to be missing, whether intentional or not, is that the comparison isn't between waterboarding and drone strikes. It's between drone strikes and the alternative.
     
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    Drone strikes are intentional and they know for a fact that when they hit town or village that there will be innocents killed.
     
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    How many innocents died when we invaded and occupied Iraq?
     

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