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  1. dex13

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    Reminded me of Brady...only a few seasons back. It really made me realize that while Brady is still an elite QB, he is definitely not the same Brady that could carry the entire load.

    At least he does have a lot more help this season. Pats have one of the younger defenses which means that they should get better as the season progresses. Normally, the Pats go in after decimating everyone in the regular season only to get bounced by an inferior team in the playoffs. Now, it will be the Pats turn to catch fire at the end of the season and steam roll through the playoffs.

    The Texans and 49ers games towards the end of the season will measure how ready the Pats really are.
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    Rodgers sucked against the Seattle Seahawks - 26/39, 223 yards - 0 TDs and sacked 8 times.

    Brady was 36/58 , 395 yards 2 TDs, 2 Ints, sacked once.

    It was extremely reassuring to learn that Rodgers and the Packers bounced back to crush the Texans.
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    You think Brady would have anywhere near those numbers if he was sacked 8 times in the game. No f-n way.
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    LOL, man. Yeah how did watching Rodgers in other weeks this year manke you feel?

    Brady can't win. His performance against Denver last week makes fans long for other days, apparently.

    And yesterday CBS showed that he last Seahawks win over the Patriots was when they beat QB Scott Secules.

    Scott freakin' Secules!!!!!!!!!!

    And people are negative here about all this small stuff!

    Sorry PatsFans, but when this run is over (and it's not) I will not be hanging around here. I'll still be watching, rooting, going to the games, but I'm not going to watch the infestation.
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    it gets worse every year my friend .. I always wonder how some of these folks on here lose their minds with a glimpse of adversity to this team .. How do they function in society when they are faced with adversity? Crazy!
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    NOt sure that will be the case. Everyone's expectations are extremely high, that's why there's a lot of disappointment when the Pats lose. When the current run ends and we're stuck watching a rebuild, everyone's expectations will be tempered and a lose like this will be looked at in context.
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    Yeah, I'd rather have Brady than Rodgers any day.

    It's pretty annoying how people keep saying Brady is losing it or Brady isn't the same every time we lose, when he's still the best QB.
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    When Brady and BB are done in NE, 74.38% (;)) of the fairweather fans here will wait for one season and see if we have the next Brady if not they will jump ship, This website/forum which we all love and visit many times a day will have fewer visitors than Adam sandlers movies..... Wise thing to do is sit back and enjoy the best QB Coach pairing in history play out their final years here in NE (which i hope is atleast 15 years lol)


    GO BRADY :rocker::rocker::rocker::rocker:
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    When the feces hit the fan, I guarantee you the first group of people to disappear out of this place will be people that you would consider "homers".
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    I like rodgers but brady would never complain to the media that his scout defense team was not playing with enough intensity. Packers seem to find a lot complaints with the refs and their chemistry and eveyrthing. But he is a great QB no doubt. If brady had one physical receiver who can stretch the field like jennings,nelson or even driver it would be awesome. Lloyd is great but not very big or physical.
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    I bet you it will be bad. Even with low expectations. It will be really really bad. Most of these fans haven't seen bad QBng. Even Bledsoe was a top 10-15 QB until his final year in New England. Heck, Cassell was a good QB here!!
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    if brady was busy getting sacked 8 times, the pats owuld have never had the lead in this game.

    but all things told, using any one game as a trend is weak.

    but this affinity for blowing games late IS a trend for the pats this year.
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    Proud homer here.

    I've been going to games and following from the mid-70s. Been through lots of bad, and I'm around still. Never abandoned this team.

    That being said, I think this place will get so bad that you're right, I'll be gone.

    But I don't think that's what you implied.
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    Maybe the first year will be bad, as far as fans expecting continued brilliance at QB. But as soon as we go through another Hodson/Millen/Zolak merry-go-round, reality will set in.

    Until then, I don't really get upset if fans get disappointed because of high expectations.

    It's like in real life, there's a certain level of disappointment when someone you think highly off does something malicious compared to if that person was someone you didn't respect.
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    Ya know, these QB comparisons don't really say much in the end. Packer fans will tell you that if they had 2 TEs like Gronk and Hernandez plus the OL pass protection that Brady's enjoyed all these years, that Rodgers would be unbelievable, etc, etc.

    Brady on the Packers just wouldn't do as well, and Rodgers on the Pats would suffer the same. Problem is, when you say that everybody yells about a "system quarterback." Well every QB is a system quarterback--they adjust to their team and teams build around them.

    Rodgers is probably the premier QB in the league...for now. Brees is very close behind and Brady is finishing out an unbelievable career. It may take 3 more seasons and Luck and Griffin III maturing before we see a new crop of truly elite QBs emerging.
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    Let Brady have Rodgers' tools, and he'll run circles around that d-bag.

    By the same token, put Rodgers with the Pats offense, and you'll see numbers tank.
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    That's the point. Brady wasn't sacked 8 times - just once. Rodgers sucked against the Seahawks - he did not get rid of the ball and he did little with it when he wasn't being dragged to the ground.
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    lol, I was talking about watching a QB in his prime verse one whose on the other side of it. And as far as watching Rodgers against Seattle and Chitown, yeah it sucked since Rodgers is my QB in my money league but other than that, he's scored over 30 points in the other four games so I can't complain.

    What I saw was a QB who could put the entire team on his back when push comes to shove just like Brady used to. Just made me think about those playoff runs of past years.
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    No it's not. I'll grant you that you seem authentic. But, personally, I've always believed that a lot more of the homers (especially "raging" homers) are more apt to be bandwagon fans. Essentially, the premise is trouble admitting fault with the team because they began rooting for them due to the Patriots awesome-ness throughout this decade and would have trouble letting go once the team starts on the downward slope. Once it hits the fan, and it becomes apparent that the Pats are once again a long way off from competing (probably post-Brady), they (along with the bandwagoning Chicken Littles) will be the first to go.
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    And that was the first time he's done that since the end of last season...

    You're living proof that fantasy football has ruined an entire generation of fans.
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    Been a Pats fan since '78 ....was through all the bad times,namely the 1990-91 seasons under Rust and the Pete Carroll,Ron Meyer failed years...still proudly wore all my Pats hats and jackets during that time and rarely missed watching a game.

    I still have my Authentic Tippett jersey which I bought when he was still playing,But unfortunately doesn't fit anymore since we all 'expand' a bit as we live on :).

    I'll die that way as a fan when they suck,when they win,but hopefully not before the team wins a few more Super bowls ;)
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    We may disagree on this. What I see with the homers is a genuine appreciation. For me it's not just the wins, but the way this team does things. I always talk about the Patriots doing things the right way. I grew up a big baseball fan as well, played bball 3 games every day in the summers. Went to 5 postseason games in the 86 series. But once the Sox joined the Yanks and the mercenaries, I just never warmed up to them. Loved Papi but though Schilling was a gun for hire. Getting rid of Nomar was the right move, but that guy was the last of developing homegrown talent and winning with it. The reason I mention them is because even though they won, after a gazillion years, I couldn't enjoy it because the Sox way put a bad taste in my mouth.

    This is what I appreciate mostly about Belichick. He simply does things right.

    The Patriots are essentially one minute in the SB away in 2007 and 2011 from erasing all these memories of last second losses to the Colts and whomever. The big difference between that and pre-2005 is simply that. People tend to erase getting blanked by the Dolphins and Bills in those SB seasons, last second hail mary's from McNair to a WR that caught every miraculous catch and then somehow inexplicably dropped it, or even the improbable Raiders game and the immense luck of that game, and then think of Mushin Muhammad grabbing a hug TD and jumping ahead of the Patriots in the SB.

    The truth is, even in the great years, the Patriots were this close to losing SBs. I mean, how good did the defense look giving up 30 points to the Panthers in 30 minutes?

    I pay much more attention to the wins year after year, going to the Super Bowl multiple times. I know this will not be easy to repeat. I don't expect Rod Rust years, but we'll go through a few Pete Carroll eras.
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    I would like to see brees,rodgers manning and everyone else play with reche caldwell and jabbar gaffeny for an entire season and go to the championship game and then talk about brady having good offensive weapons. Yes they are a great offense now but look how much turnover they have had on the offense and brady has consistently changed with the scheme and delivered. Regarding the oline , yes it maybe better than most buts its brady who makes it look good. I think rodgers is a great QB as is brees but I havent seen them perform when they have scrub receivers and TE's around them -Not their fault but brady hasnt always had great receivers and TE's around him -after many failed drafts with graham and watson they finally hit on Gronk and hernandez .
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    ^ That's been my argument since the overrat-ion of Rodgers and Brees started.

    If Brady was being coached under the offensive genius, Sean Payton and those athletic receivers, averaging 50+ throws a game, breaking records, he'd unarguably the GOAT(though he still is to me.) If Brady were playing the same scrub defenses and teams, Rodgers has been playing all his career, Brady would unarguably be the most overrated QB and still the GOAT.

    I was not at all impressed with Rodgers last night. I've been telling everyone that the Texans were overrated garbage, especially when they face average and better teams, they look awful. They should've lost to the Jets last week, but the Jets are good at killing themselves-- that's also been the case with our offense this year, but what the heck, right?
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    thanks for pointing out the bolded part, so true...Aaron has sucked pretty hard this season
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    I was a little more envious of how aggressively they played being up 11 points in the 3rd qtr. 28-17. Pound into submission mode.
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    I'm not doubting Mr Brady cmon, it's the defense who wasn't able to hold the Giants on our last 2 SBs and umm need I say more of our secondary?
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    and you basis for this is what? Or is the fact that you can't handle appreciation for another QB? And even though Rodgers scored 7 TDs in the previous two games so I guess by your definition, he hasn't done anything this season.

    Sorry, didn't realize that this was a Jets forum were posters can't appreciate other talent other than those on the Patriots.
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    brady got rid of the ball better. couple were intentional grounding...but rodgers held on to the ball forever in that game. just a bad game really.


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