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  1. FreeTedWilliams

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    I would wet myslef if the Pats came out of the first 3 rounds with these picks..

    WalterFootball.com: 2009 NFL Mock Draft


    24. New England Patriots: Clint Sintim, DE/OLB, Virginia
    Bill Belichick added a young inside linebacker to his roster last April. He may look to upgrade the exterior this time around.

    The Patriots struggled to put pressure on the quarterback at times (31 sacks) and Mike Vrabel, though still dependable, will be 34 in August. Something has to be done about this.

    47. New England Patriots: Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
    The Patriots need help at corner, and Victor Harris is a steal if they can get him down here.

    (That is "Macho" Harris)

    59. New England Patriots: C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
    The Patriots need running back help; Laurence Maroney is always hurt, Kevin Faulk is nothing more than a fossil right now, while LaMont Jordan and Sammy Morris are pretty mediocre. C.J. Spiller, whose stock could explode at the Combine, could be a home-run threat at running back that New England really needs.

    90. New England Patriots: Nic Harris, SS, Oklahoma
    Nic Harris seems like the strong safety-linebacker tweener the Patriots love to have on their roster. With retirement knocking down Rodney Harrison's door, the Patriots would love to add someone like Harris to their roster.

    Did you see this kid last night, he has got more than a little "Rodney" in him.
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    The positional needs are right. But the draft hardly ever goes as you desire. That's because there are 31 other teams going after their players. We'll see how it shakesout on 2009 but I can guarantee that not everybone will be happy with who we get. That's the only certainty.
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    Hard to fully accept the comments on our RB's. Our committee of Fossils and Mediocrates had the regular seasons #6 ranked run game.

    I have serious doubts we'll draft a RB this year unless someone irresistable falls right into our laps.

    Offense can safely age and still score points. Defense simply has to be smart and fast and just the right mix of vets and young'uns.

    How great is it that a guy like Mayo is probably the next Tedy Bruschi on AND off the field? Nice to have a "Patriot's Way Vet" who's that young.
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    I would be very happy with those four players, although I'd prefer to get Spiller with a lower pick. However, some team will probably overdraft him. He probably is the fastest kid in the draft. I like Sintim, Harris, and Harris very much, although VT kids scare me, as they have a very high turd factor. I think a kid might have to be found guilty in federal court of multiple murders of babies and puppies for Beemer not to recruit him.
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    I wanted the Pats to pick Steve Slaton last year out of West Virginia as the heir apparent to Kevin Faulk, he ended up going between the Crable and O'Connel picks in the 3rd round. I think that Spiller can be the same kind of impact screen/draw/kick return player as Faulk, just with much more speed (and hopefully Faulk's uncanny ability to make first downs).
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    Our RBs were great WHEN HEALTHY. And that's the rub. Morris, Jordan, and LM spent lots of time hurt in 2008. It was not till near the end of the season that Morris and Jordan were BOTH healthy at the same time and able to play. The Pats getting insurance at RB is a reasonable use of a draft choice imo. Would I prioritize RB? No. But would I draft insurance if the value was right? Yes.
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    That's his upside, but man is he frail. I doubt he weighs 180, and he'll probably do less than 5 reps at the combine. He might be best served moving to flanker.

    I think the guy to replace Faulk this year in this years' draft is Ringer, if we want to get one in the first three rounds. But I would love to spend a late-rounder on our fellow alum Brinkley, assuming his knee checks out. What that kid accomplished in a no-talent offense is remarkable.

    Herring from ASU is another possibility, and Woods from Texas Tech.
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    why people dont put OL in their mocks is beyond me, we are in need of OL help
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    I agree........I believe a day 1 pick will be used on OL.......must get quality for that group as there is the potential for many departure after next season......my first choice would be an OG as mankins may not be here and neal is breaking down
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    Pretty good draft. I really like they picked one of my binkies Nic Harris. He played pretty well last night despite the loss. If we could get him in the third with the comp pick I'd like it.
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    I'm suprised that they have Harris lasting to the 3rd round.

    It seems that with some, if you don't have one back who is a 1000 yard rusher, your RB's suck. When will they ever learn?
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    Not my kind of draft. Slintim is probably solid, but I'd much prefer Connor Barwin, my binky and a perfect pats-type player with much more upside who can probably be gotten in the second round. I don't think Harris fits our style of play at all, and there are half a dozen CBs I would take over him in the second round. I don't think RB is a major need for 2009, and would rather focus on rebuilding the defense. I don't want Nic Harris at all - I think he's at best a pure in-the-box safety and at worst a safety-linebacker tweener.

    JMHO.
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    These next three months will be amusing and fun. Now our #6 rated running game and the best patriot running game more than 20 years is just a much of old fossils and hasbeens. :) :) Not bad for a passing team who uses a lineman when we needed a fullback!

    Let's review. We have Maroney, Faulk and Morris. Barring injuries, the 4th back will be inactive in most games. With one injury, the injured back will be inactive. Our incumbant is BJGE. I would like to re-sign Jordan or another free agent equivalent as an upgrade to BJGE, but I am fine with him as our #4. I do not want us to use a draft pick in the first three rounds on a running back!! What a waste, given our needs at ILB, OG, OT, CB, SS, FS, WR and TE. And that doesn't could OLB which for some posters is their #1 priority. It also deoen't include DE which is a huge need if we don't re-sign/extend two of Wilfork, Seymour, and Green.
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    The tide in the NFL has shifted and the system of using a single star running back is mostly out of fashion right now. Teams like have a committee of running backs and we have a decent committee, so drafting a runner on Day 1 would be surprising.

    Having said that, the Clemson RB is very explosive and could be worth a shot if he slips to Day 2. On Day 1, IMO, its going to be all linemen and maybe a linebacker.
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    1) Simtin - Pats haven't drafted anyone who played for Al Groh so far. If Simtin can bring the pressure the Pats need from the OLB position, great.. Not sure that he can though..

    2) Victor Harris - More of a FS than a CB. Not sure that this fits the Pats needs..

    3) Spiller - Hmm.. ok.. rather focus on a C/G here

    4) Nic Harris - Not a big fan of his. I don't think he's got the coverage abilities that the Pats would like. Harrison was vastly under-rated in his.

    If this is how it came out, then I'd be surprised. But, I'd also work to try and understand BB/Pioli's thinking
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    Just been looking at this mock on their site strangely enoough. Whilst Spiller would represent huge value, I'd be massively disappointed with a running back in the second round considering what we have on the roster and what will most likely still be left on the board at that point.

    I like the first and the last, but I'm not sold on Macho fitting the Pats skill set. He's too tall for a start ;)
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    Slightly off topic - I've been reading through all the Mocks listed on WalterFootball, and a huge amount of them have us going down the Alphonso Smith/DJ Moore route in round one.....
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    I wouldn't mind getting a RB, but this summary is completely ridiculous, starting with the idea that the Patriots "need running back help." I understand people are frustrated with Maroney, but he's coming back, he's got one last chance and I'm hoping he'll finally put it together.

    As for the rest of it - "fossil," "mediocre" - complete and utter horsecrap.
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    Where did you get that "quote" as I never wrote any of that!
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    You can pretty much make up any "quote" you like. I haven't paid enough attention to the thread to know where the quote came from but here is an example:

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    It's from the originally quoted mock draft, not FreeTedWilliams talking.
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    Haha that's funny. And it was actually kazoo not triangle.. geez the mis-information.
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    My bad. :blush:
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    Now I'm worried 'bout your mental health if you're checking in on Mangini's panty preference! :eek:
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    Agreed. writers are to in love with the "home run" threat. first downs are fine. Someone might tell the writer that the forward pass is now allowed.

    Otherwise, love that draft need wise.
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    The Pats may prefer Sintim inside with Mayo. He's very versatile (sound familiar)?

    I prefer other CBs.

    First off, the Pats don't need a home-run threat. Secondly, If I'm going to invest in an offensive skill position this early, I'd go WR -- not RB. After Moss and Welker, how secure and talented are we? Lastly, Faulk is still one of the team MVPs, and Maroney, Morris, and Jordan are solid RBs.

    Prefer other Safeties over Harris.
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    1.) Could be Ok,a lot will depend on what Al tells BB in private
    2.) No quck twitch - not a BB type CB.
    3.) Explosive - super fast and could take over for Hobbs on kick off returns.
    4.) Is he fast enough for the NFL? He'll need a great combine/pro day run. Merriweather grew a lot at SS, we need a FS.
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    Meriweather is NOT a strong safety. He had to play it this year because nobody else was as good. That's not the same as saying he is a natural fit for SS. He lacks the size and tackling to be a true in the box SS.

    http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonmeriweather/profile?id=MER280467

    5-11 and 200 lbs soaking wet. No let's just not try to fool ourselves here.
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    No fooling allowed, watch the tapes, Merriweather's play speaks volumes.
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    I'd be more comfortable having a larger safety playing next to Meriweather. At his size, I don't think he can take the pounding in the box long term. I'd rather not see him end up injured as often as Bob Sanders. BB's 3-4 defense emphasizes size over speed, particularly in our linebackers, how would safety be any different?

    Rodney Harrison measures in at 6-1 220 and has been extremely successful in the BB system when healthy. That tells me a bigger safety in the SS slot has a higher chance of success in this D. Harrison won't beat Meriweather in a footrace but he made receivers hear footsteps and dealt out ferocious hits. That's what I want in my SS. You're welcome to recommend drafting 190-200 lbs safeties for that job, but based on past history, I don't buy it.

    Rodney Harrison
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