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Voter ID law in PA ---- Done!

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  1. Holy Diver

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    Voter fraud didn't win yet sport:



    IOW the court knows the principle is constitutional, but is trying to see if they can overturn it based on problems administering the law.

    So the voter fraud supporters will have to wait awhile before celebrating.
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    Pressing issues must get attention while the Constitution and the sanctity of your vote is crapped on.

    This country is OVER!

    The menace of voter fraud will bring... this... republik... DOWN!
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    Why are so many people against showing an ID when voting.

    Why should somebody who doesn't have any indentification be alloweed to vote.

    Voting is important.

    Does this mean that somebody from Kenya who hapopens to be here on Vacation in November can VOTE in our Presidential elections?


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    No it isn't. If it were, more people would do it.
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    I think everyone knows where I stand on this "issue", but wista, people don't vote not because it isn't important.

    They don't because they are lazy; either physically or mentally.
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    I will ask again.

    If voter ID isn't required can a person visiting this country who is from another country Vote in our Presidential Elections then go home
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    Or, they don't like the candidates.
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    I think you need to ask using Bigger Letters.
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    So write one in?????

    I realize that probably does nothing outcome wise, but at least your voice "is heard"

    From the numbers I was able to find (OECD has some if you are so inclined) the US has one of the lowest turnout rates in the developed world (the US was around 50% in 2010)

    Your explanation for that would be people don't like the candidates.
    Wista's is because it isn't important (and cynical side of me sees what he is getting at).

    My explanation is we are a lazy people who don't see the value in it anymore. I don't think you make things better by just not participating in the process.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    I don't know how it is in most states, but in great state of Connecticut we simply show our Driver's License (or some form of government issued ID), match it to our home address, and go vote.

    That's not what happens everywhere else??

    EDIT: not a picture ID, just an ID. I believe I matched once with a non-picture ID.
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    Not in MA. You walk in, they ask for address, you provide.

    Then they say "Drewski?"

    "Yes"

    "Here is your ballot."

    All I would have to do is sneak a peek while waiting in line at their list and memorize a name and address.
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    But that begs the question - if you're being matched against a list, you can't possibly vote 'extra'.

    The worst that can happen is that you take someone else's place on the list.

    For example, I vote as DocHoliday and come in and vote as Drewski as well. I can't change the net amount of votes.

    I wonder if anyone has ever came in and realized someone else had already voted using their name.
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    yeah...but nobody really does that. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning while winning the powerball.

    BTW: If you did that, and got caught, you'd go to jail, because it's illegal.

    The big deal in the PA case, aside from having to provide the people who don't have IDs with the proper IDs by the election, was that they couldn't provide the court with a single instance of voter fraud in the entire state.

    Now this could very well become PA law, and to be CLEAR I'm cool with that, just make it so that its easy for everyone to get the proper IDs before the election. I bet this will be in place by the next time an election rolls around in PA.
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    I don't have a problem with a photo i.d. like HD said just make it reasonably easy to get one.
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    HD - I wasn't arguing that people do do that, simply that they could.

    And I agree with your later point - make an ID easy to get (and free if someone isn't able to pay the 25$ for a state ID) ; which it already is see...the internet....it is a beautiful thing, and be done with it.

    If someone has to be ID'd to buy smokes, booze, a gun or a rated R movie ticket, I can't see how they shouldn't to cast their vote.
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    Doc - I guess I wasn't looking at it as a vote extra instance, although obviously it manifests itself as that.

    I would argue it is more for people who aren't registered to vote, for whatever reason, could do so. Remembering a name and address isnt that hard. 50 percent of college kids do it every weekend (in case they get quizzed on their fake ID :))
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    No in NJ you just sign a book, no id. If you knew the names of people who were registered but not voting in a different precinct you could go into the polling station and just vote a second......n times.
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    If voter ID isn't required can somebody from Japan visit America in November and Vote

    Jesus Christ will somebody answer that friggin question
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    somehow NJ's laws now apply to PA voters?

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