Vince Wilfork on the Pollard hit

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  1. DefenseRules

    DefenseRules Pro Bowl Player

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    Vince has a point. That's all I'm going to say. The lack of consistency is EYE OPENING. Did they change the rule?:confused:
  2. TrueBeliever

    TrueBeliever 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    No, they just decided that because it was done TO a Patriot rather than BY a Patriot, it was "clean."
  3. emoney_33

    emoney_33 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    You guys haven't seen the addendum to all rules in the NFL rulebook as well as all bylaws? Rules only apply when the Patriots commit them, not when commited against the Patriots. Good grief.

    This is trully an outrage and I hope Vince and the patriots don't let this one go lightly. I'm so sick and f'ing tired of taking the high road. SCREW THE NFL!
  4. ALP

    ALP Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    u know, that is very good way of putting...

    the Pats owe nothing to the NFL...why do they keep on taking the high road? by now if they wanted to teh Pats could have roasted the NFL on Spygate, and this hit, and many "incorectly" called games including the pats (especially in the playoffs)

    man ohh man i cant wait for the day the pats strike back

    PATSYLICIOUS Pro Bowl Player

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    That really is messed up. Vince was unfairly accused of making a cheap shot when he clearly wasn't because like he said the NFL singled him out. That's a pretty heavy accusation towards a player who those that know more than what you see in the media knows is a class act. The inconsistency is definitely frustrating here.
  6. SVN

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    i understand their frustration but right now its time to move on. its done . what the heck can a penalty and a fine do ?more they linger on what it coudlve been more they stay in the present. just forget it . no point calling it dirty and prolonging the story in the media. next he will be asked about this every interview and the story prolongs. thats why i like BB's theory. Dont say anything and let the story die down.
  7. pheenix11

    pheenix11 Supporter Supporter

    Yeah I have never believed that hit by Wilfork was intentional. If you have ever heard him on WEEI he is a down to earth stand up guy and he was personally offended that people would regard him as a dirty player.

    He makes a good point. If Wilfork's hit was illegal, then Pollard's definitely is. The NFL is a joke with how they enforce rules.
  8. DefenseRules

    DefenseRules Pro Bowl Player

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    I think you are right. But the guy is human. If something like that happened to me, I would have the same reaction. NO ONE likes to feel that they have been treated unfairly.
  9. ALP

    ALP Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    u are right...but i want pollard fined (he should have been flagged...cant cahnge that) not b/c of brady, but b/c of wilfork...
  10. emoney_33

    emoney_33 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Pollard better hope he never has to face the Patriots again in his career.
  11. PatsWickedPissah

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    Both hits were legit. It's tackle football. Wilfy shouldn't have been fined.

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    It's not really about paying the fine, but the fact that there was a fine sparked some undeserved discussion about Wilfork and I'm sure it does mean something to him. It's just unfairly incriminating. For example I was arguing with some obnoxious Steeler fans about this and they said "Well I dont remember Kimo being fined" :rolleyes:
  13. PatriotNMP43

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    The Colts rules committee has destroyed league integrity and fairness.

    It does not matter if it was dirty or not, the rule states that '' any hit to a QB below the knee is illegal and an automatic fine ''. I guess the rules only apply when it's not a Patriot.

    I know a little fine won't bring Brady back but this blatant ''screw the Pats '' rulebook is just a joke and an embarrassment. If this happened to Peyton Manning by a Patriot what would happen then???
  14. WhiZa

    WhiZa Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    If Pollard got flagged he would have been fined. Because he did not get flagged the NFL did not want to make the officials look like idiots and go off telling them they did their job wrong in public.

    Ever see the NFLN show when Mike Pereira to talk about penalties? He never says the wrong call was made when some of them are pretty ridiculous.
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  15. memento

    memento On the Game Day Roster

    pollard's hit looks more intentional than wilforks when you really look at them.

    but there's still some gray area of whether he was under his own power or not, at least from the officials point of view.

    i'm okay with him not getting the fine. i want the next few weeks to be about cassel succeeding. i've had enough of playing the poor victimized new england fan.
  16. fair catch fryar

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    I have to go with Vince on this one. As far as the hit, it didn't seem like anything too malicious, but Big Vince is 100% correct on this one. Be consistent with everyone, so the message is sent and players are more conscious of it. Apparently, there are two sets of rules that apply here and the NFL is making that abundantly clear.
  17. Fencer

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    Not just a fine, but a suspension.
  18. signbabybrady

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    This really pisses me off.

    I think the NFL really hates the Patriots.

    For them to fine Vince and not to Fine Pollard is BS.

    No consistancy. This rule was put in for this exact reason and yet nothing.:mad::mad::mad:
  19. pao

    pao Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Here are the two incidents....
    Looks to me like Wilfork intentionally went after the knee. A case can be made that Wilfork was trying to break his fall after being blocked toward Lossman. If you believe that you probably believe OJ didn't kill Nicole and Ron.
    Looks to me like Pollard launched himself at Brady's knee (kind of reminds me of the time Rodney (when he was with the Chargers- in the PreSeason no less) lanched himself at Trent Green's (when he was the Rams' starting QB) knee and ended his season (giving Kurt Warner a chance to run the "Greatest Show on Turf"). A case can be made that his intended flight was toward Brady's waist and he was redirected by Morris. I don't know but I can understand why officials would see it that way.
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  20. emoney_33

    emoney_33 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    He could have been bracing for the fall and last second decided to try to nudge Losman (above the waist). He started high and was falling, a lot easier to attempt high and accidently hit low while falling.

    Nope, no case can be made for that all. No way in hell. He turned himself into a missile and lunged at Brady's knee, end of story.
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