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SoonerPatriot said:
Hey you kept mentioning that Box's film reviews showed Duane Starks wasn't really burnt that often and that Starks actually played better than it looked to the layman.

Tell me, what did BB's film reviews of Duane Starks reveal?

Well, they probably revealed that the Safeties were out of position many times leaving Starks alone underneath in the zone coverage. That is just my layman perspective. You'd have to ask BB himself.

As for why Starks was cut, my opinion was that he was too expensive and he didn't want to renegotiate an extension. His flapping his trap about his shoulder, first saying that it was fine, but then having to recant after his surgery when the doctor told him how messed up it was. Also, him saying that he didn't play a physical game probably didn't help.

But, why don't you tell everyone the real reason since you seem to know all the inner workings of the Patriots. Or at least you pretend to.
 
DaBruinz said:
Well, they probably revealed that the Safeties were out of position many times leaving Starks alone underneath in the zone coverage. That is just my layman perspective. You'd have to ask BB himself.

As for why Starks was cut, my opinion was that he was too expensive and he didn't want to renegotiate an extension. His flapping his trap about his shoulder, first saying that it was fine, but then having to recant after his surgery when the doctor told him how messed up it was. Also, him saying that he didn't play a physical game probably didn't help.

But, why don't you tell everyone the real reason since you seem to know all the inner workings of the Patriots. Or at least you pretend to.

Never said I knew the inner workings of the Pats. Again, more falsehoods but it's part of your schtick so it's not important.

As to Starks, can we can infer he just wasn't a very good player and it was a mistake to sign him?

I mean the fact that he's not here anymore would at the minimum suggest that, no?
 
SoonerPatriot said:
Anger issues...


http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32816
There was no anger here

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32948
Hmm.. Stepping up to defend another poster is considered anger?

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?p=62587#post62587
No anger there

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32888
Definitely no anger there. Heck not even frustration there.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32909
You think the post in that thread was ANGER? *ROFLMAO*

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32863
Obviously, you don't know what anger is. That wasn't anger.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32764
*just shakes his head*

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32764
*just shakes his head*

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32563

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32563
No anger here. Just disdain for the clueless.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32544
Anger? I guess in this one. Ok. so you're 1 for 10 so far. That's not a good average. Even in baseball.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32346
Definitely anger in that one because of the Anti-Semetic comments made. You're gonna hold that against me?

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32258
Another swing and a miss.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32265
Disain yes. Anger, no.

If you are going to attempt to post threads, why don't you post the actual page that stuff happened on.

BTW, I would also suggest you learn the difference between ANGER, frustration and disdain. It clear you don't know the difference.

Would you do everyone a favor and stop trying to be a shrink. You are failing miserably. Especially since only 2 of the threads showed any true anger. And one of them was fully legitimate because of the Anti-Semetic comments made. And, for the record, the person who made the comments was banned. So you provided 1 thread that showed a post I did with anger in it. 1 of 13. Hardly goes to your lie that I have anger issues and have shown them since day 1.
 
DaBruinz said:
If you are going to attempt to post threads, why don't you post the actual page that stuff happened on.

BTW, I would also suggest you learn the difference between ANGER, frustration and disdain. It clear you don't know the difference.

Would you do everyone a favor and stop trying to be a shrink. You are failing miserably. Especially since only 2 of the threads showed any true anger. And one of them was fully legitimate because of the Anti-Semetic comments made. And, for the record, the person who made the comments was banned. So you provided 1 thread that showed a post I did with anger in it. 1 of 13. Hardly goes to your lie that I have anger issues and have shown them since day 1.

For someone who doesnt have any anger issues, there was a lot of calling people idiots, morons, douchebags, clueless etc. etc.

And that was just a week or so of posts i cobbled together in 5 minutes. I could go on all night, but it might cause bandwidth issues for Ian.
 
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SoonerPatriot said:
Never said I knew the inner workings of the Pats. Again, more falsehoods but it's part of your schtick so it's not important.

As to Starks, can we can infer he just wasn't a very good player and it was a mistake to sign him?

I mean the fact that he's not here anymore would at the minimum suggest that, no?

Sooner -
I am not you. I am not the pathological liar who has to sit there and exaggerate what is said by others.

I said that you pretended to know because of your insistance on stating things as FACT. You don't state them as opinion.

Now, as for Duane Starks not being here, why do you insist on ignoring other potential issues? Like the fact that he would have counted 5.1 million against the cap. A very high number. Or the fact that he might not have been recovered from his shoulder issues. Look at Pennington. His shoulder issue has been going on for how long now? 3 years and 4 or 5 surgeries I think? Why have a player around eating up cap space if he can't play?

BTW, its pretty amazing how you sit and spin things and jump around from point to point after you lose it.
 
SoonerPatriot said:
For someone who doesnt have any anger issues, there was a lot of calling people idiots, morons, douchebags, clueless etc. etc.

And that was just a week or so of posts i cobbled together in 5 minutes. I could go on all night, but it might cause bandwidth issues for Ian.

More lies on your part. I haven't call anyone a douchebag. Clueless, yes. A moron, yes. Idiot. Sure. All of them justified and earned. But its not a sign of anger.

Keep pretending you know what you are talking about. Its laughable.
 
DaBruinz said:
Sooner -
I am not you. I am not the pathological liar who has to sit there and exaggerate what is said by others.

I said that you pretended to know because of your insistance on stating things as FACT. You don't state them as opinion.

Now, as for Duane Starks not being here, why do you insist on ignoring other potential issues? Like the fact that he would have counted 5.1 million against the cap. A very high number. Or the fact that he might not have been recovered from his shoulder issues. Look at Pennington. His shoulder issue has been going on for how long now? 3 years and 4 or 5 surgeries I think? Why have a player around eating up cap space if he can't play?

BTW, its pretty amazing how you sit and spin things and jump around from point to point after you lose it.


Now we're calling people pathological liars. My my.

I think Starks isn't here because he stinks. You think it's because he was hurt, the salary cap yada yada yada.

Could it be that he's not here because he both stinks AND cost 5.1 million against the cap and had not recovered from his shoulder injuries?
 
DaBruinz said:
More lies on your part. I haven't call anyone a douchebag. Clueless, yes. A moron, yes. Idiot. Sure. All of them justified and earned. But its not a sign of anger.

Keep pretending you know what you are talking about. Its laughable.

Oh, given what I saw in 5 minutes of pulling up posts of yours Im pretty sure somewhere in the 2,000 plus I could find one where you called someone a douche bag.

Keep pretending you're not a nut case. It's laughable.
 
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SoonerPatriot said:
Oh, given what I saw in 5 minutes of pulling up posts of yours Im pretty sure somewhere in the 2,000 plus I could find one where you called someone a douche bag.

Keep pretending you're not a nut case. It's laughable.

Sooner - I can guarantee that you can't. And I would put money on it.

What's laughable is you and your incessant need to lie about people. The nutcase is you.
 
SoonerPatriot said:
Now we're calling people pathological liars. My my.

I think Starks isn't here because he stinks. You think it's because he was hurt, the salary cap yada yada yada.

Could it be that he's not here because he both stinks AND cost 5.1 million against the cap and had not recovered from his shoulder injuries?

I call'em like I see'em. Don't like it. Don't lie and exaggerate to try and prove an unprovable point.


Yep. It could have been that. But, that not an option you've mentioned before. And we'll never actually know the truth because BB is too classy to say that about a player.
 
DaBruinz said:
Sooner - I can guarantee that you can't. And I would put money on it.

What's laughable is you and your incessant need to lie about people. The nutcase is you.


You mentioned earlier that you found only 2 posts where legit anger was displayed by you. But what you don't realize is most people don't have any posts where legit anger was displayed. Most normal people don't walk around calling people idiots whether it's on a message board or in real life. I found 2 (there were more than 2, but for the sake of argument we'll use your total) in just 5 minutes of searching.

I can understand every once in awhile. That's reasonable. Everyone gets their buttons pushed from time to time. And of course trolls are fair game.

But you have to admit you're not shy about calling people who merely disagree with you stupid, morons, clueless etc.
 
SoonerPatriot said:
You mentioned earlier that you found only 2 posts where legit anger was displayed by you. But what you don't realize is most people don't have any posts where legit anger was displayed. Most normal people don't walk around calling people idiots whether it's on a message board or in real life. I found 2 (there were more than 2, but for the sake of argument we'll use your total) in just 5 minutes of searching.

I can understand every once in awhile. That's reasonable. Everyone gets their buttons pushed from time to time. And of course trolls are fair game.

But you have to admit you're not shy about calling people who merely disagree with you stupid, morons, clueless etc.

Sooner -
I am not shy about calling people stupid, clueless or moronic when they post things that have holes so big in their argument that you could parallel park a Tandem trailer Mack truck in it. Also, if you look, most of the posts were to trolls.

BTW, I suggest you read those same threads again. There were plenty of people showing a lot more ANGER than I was.

Oh, and one last thing, a LOT of people would be shouting and screaming in real life if an Anti-Semetic or a Racist comment was said. Just some food for thought.
 
DaBruinz said:
Sooner -
I am not shy about calling people stupid, clueless or moronic when they post things that have holes so big in their argument that you could parallel park a Tandem trailer Mack truck in it. Also, if you look, most of the posts were to trolls.

BTW, I suggest you read those same threads again. There were plenty of people showing a lot more ANGER than I was.

Oh, and one last thing, a LOT of people would be shouting and screaming in real life if an Anti-Semetic or a Racist comment was said. Just some food for thought.


But does posting something that is in your opinion a flawed agrument necessitate calling them a moron? How about just educating them in a non caustic manner? It's really not that hard.

As to the anti-semetic thing, you were right to go off there.

I think you and I agree on a lot 1-We're a team that's in a little bit of a re-tooling mode 2-We will move on and be fine without AV and the rest 3-You can't over spend for guys who are aging. The nuts and bolts stuff.

I think we've got a lot of work to be done before we can start penciling in an SB appearance next season, but surely even you can admit that there's work to be done at this stage. No?

But you've called me and others on this forum clueless for merely disagreeing with you long before today. Just seems like all of that is unecessary.
 
I was shocked when I came home tonight from the Oilers game and read Vinatieri was a Colt.

Ugh... I don't know if it's just the bitterness right now, but **** Vinatieri.
 
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the day started quite bad today...
no no no
i can't believe AV is now with the Colts...

anyway...thks for the great memories and for some beautiful kicks i will never forget (expecially 2: the 45 yards in the snow and the one that gave us our 1st Super Bowl).

anyway bad day...one of the worst...

i can not believe it is true...
 
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Mason Crosby

mtbykr said:
Ya but isn't he a senior this year and not coming out till next year?

Yeah, you're right...thought I'd seen something about him being a senior...my fault for not checking CU's website first, but thanks for the catch.

Edinger???

Is Tony Franklin or John Smith available?
 
It would probrably get scared and shrivel up. The last thing guys are gonna buy is French viagra.
 
It would probrably get scared and shrivel up. The last thing guys are gonna buy is French viagra.

No, it would go on strike and quit right before climax. :eek:
 
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