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    Ian's Daily Blog - Watching Sunday’s 27-21 game against the Baltimore Ravens, I have to say that with just over 5:00 left to go in the first half of play there’s no question that Terrell Suggs clearly had an alterior motive as he dove at Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s surgically repaired knee. Having watched this play repeatedly, it was just [...]

     
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    I rather suspect that Suggs wasn't literally going for the knees, but rather intending to intimidate Brady and get in his head with memories of last year's hit. Scummy play either way. And clearly intentional.
     
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    I don't know. Is there a one inch band where you're allowed to hit the QB now? I suppose that was the Brady rule, but Wilforks tackle was bs and There was a penalty because somebody touched Brady's helmet.

    They might as well just give QBs a flag to put in their pocket.
     
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    Every replay I've seen it seems like Suggs had full intention of going into his knees, even changing directions in order to do so. I agree he should be fined
     
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    I'm actually not sure what to think about it. From the left side view, it looks as if he is clearly leaping for his knees after Brady threw the ball. HOWEVER, from the right side view, it appears as if he stumbles and falls into Brady, puts his arm out to break his fall and rolls to the left (away from Brady). I really don't know what to make of it.

    Edit: on further review, maybe the left-side view does show him "stumble" but put his arm out towards Brady while falling in his direction, instead of forward or to the left. I don't know. I'm just glad Brady didn't get hurt.
     
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    The helmet one was stupid - but I did think the fact he dove at his legs it deserved to be called. If he had gotten there just as the ball was released - then there's always the case that it's football and that they should let them play. But the ball was already gone, and he was just standing there watching it when Suggs dove at him - which as I wrote was probably the only reason why Brady was able to get out of the way.
     
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    LOL, suggs would have loved to hurt brady, and yea, its pretty evident it was intentional, and his hit was PERFECTLY placed....

    he wanted to hurt a player where he before had a season ending injury....really scum move, and i would like to see him get suspended for 2-4 games b/c of it

    not b/c its brady, but b/c of the situation alltogether
     
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    After watching it a few times I agree that he was going for the legs. He wasn't blocked into Brady or on the ground. He is flat out just going low.. looks pretty intentional. Don't know if the contact (or lack thereof) is what any sort of fine would be determined from. I'm just glad Brady was able turn and make it a glancing blow.
     
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    They've been calling the helmet slaps for as long as I can remember
     
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    Like you said it was blatantly obvious Suggs was trying to hurt Brady, it was like something out of the movie "The Longest Yard" and i mean the old longest yard. I don't ever recall someone going after a QB like that, the ball was long gone. I hope he gets hit for a larger chunk of change.
     
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    If they don't call these penalties and don't fine the players that do stuff like this then defensive players will keep testing the limits about how close they can get to certain parts of the body. I hate watching defenders roll up on a QBs knee while they are stepping into a throw. It is cringe worthy. And I dont think these penalties are a bad thing when a player is in no position to deflect or absorb a blow.

    Despite this, and I understand defenders complaints, football will still be a contact sport, and we've seen examples of QBs getting hit HARD but legally. But after watching that video I hope Suggs thinks twice about doing something like that to another QB knowing it will cost his team 15 yards and himself in the wallet.
     
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    That's obviously true - and it's kind of like what they said earlier this afternoon that you have to call the slaps the same way you do the major ones. You have to keep them away from the head period. It's just hard to call it "roughing the passer" when a guy's hand glances a helmet :rolleyes:
     
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    from the look of it,maybe he was trying to tie the laces on bradys shoes..........go pats
     
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    I don't understand all the outrage from the Raven's or the comment from Rodney (although I think he's just busting and old friend's balls).

    The rules don't leave much room for interpretation. Touch a guy below the knees ... FLAG! Slap a QBs helmet ... FLAG!

    If you don't care for the rules try to change them in the offseason, but it's black and white. I'm not a HOMER. As soon as I saw Wright hit Flacco in the helmet (although it appeared like he hit him in the shoulder and as Flacco turned his hand moved up to the helmet) I expected and AGREED with the flag. I like the rules as they are now.

    The one rule they need to work on is the "In the grass" rule. Some refs blow the whistle quickly and others take too long :( superbowl. They need to work on consistency. As long as the rules are spelled out and they're consistently called, defenders shouldn't have any reason to complain!
     
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    one thing that seems to be lost is that Brady didn't seem to care. He was almost glad he did it so the penalty was called. obviously he doesn't want guys diving at his knee but he seemed to just shrug it off like it was no biggie so long as the flag came out.
     
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    Exactly - and I think it was Ray Lewis that made the comment about how the penalty shouldn't have been called because Brady got up with a smile on his face or some such. Clearly if there is a rule, and it can be exploited within the limits of the game - why not?

    I don't think the NFL can add a clause to the rule that says the penalty can only be applied if the player is writhing around on the ground in pain.
     
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    I'm not arguing the call, there'sa new emphasis and that's a penalty now. The Brady, swimming on the ground rule or something. I'm thinking more of Wilforks solid tackle a couple weeks ago and the love tap on the helmet. You have to let the refs ignore something that's technically a penalty, or frustrated players will give up trying to figure out what they can do and wham somebody.

    I think they need to use their judgment and evaluate intent and harm.

    Hate to use basketball, but Dave Cowens once started complaining when the refs were calling every ticky tack thing. Technically fouls, but impeding the flow of the game.

    Finally Cowens looked right at the ref, laid a guy out, put his arm up and said "that's a foul". Refs got the point and let them play.
     
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    That's interesting - I had never heard that story before :cool:
     
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    The officials are definitely being overly protective of the QBs this season, in general, and it's not just been this one game. The helmet call was weak, but the call on the knee had to be made given the rules. It was not a Wilfork situation, or a 'slide down' situation, it was a play made right on the knee. It's all about protecting the biggest dollar earners.
     
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    True story. Didn't see it, but remember reading about it the next day in The Globe. Someone would be tossed for that today.
     
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