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    Paul Ryan vindicated of left wing smears.

    Video PROOF of Obama’s empty promise to Janesville plant, vindicating Paul Ryan » The Right Scoop -

    This what PR said in his speech.
    So how many Pinniochios was that again Wash. Post?
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    Yes, we know....and we also know that the Janesville factory was closed in December, 2008—almost a month before Obama took office and long before the 2009 auto-industry rescue plan.
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    Patra, Obama never had a chance to save the factory. I think we should blame the Republicans for this one, so thanks for posting!

    FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

    "It’s true that the plant didn’t last another year, as Ryan said. In fact, the Business Journal in Milwaukee wrote that the assembly plant shut down on Dec. 23, 2008, at the tail end of the Bush administration, a victim of the financial crisis and dwindling demand for the SUVs produced at the plant. That’s nearly one month before Obama was sworn into office."
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    Horse hockey.
    The plant was still producing trucks and was not in moth balls but could have been fired up in a moments notice.
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    We have been over and over and over this again, there was a force of 57 workers left.. and they completed some trucks.. however it finally closed soon thereafter...

    Obama never promised anything, keep googling there has to be something out there that you can find..

    It takes a while to close any plant down..

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    Where was Obama to open the plant then? Either way its still closed.
    Another broken promise.
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    Let's do this s l o w l y, he visited the plant in February of 2008, and never promised to keep it open.. they closed it in December of 2008, he was not in office until Jan. of 2009.. after the decision was made to close it and there was a skeleton crew of 57 left..

    There was no promise, and he could not have done anything anyways..

    Your dearly beloved leader, Paulie, tried everything he could do, but could not keep it open.. what a powerless politician.
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    I believe this, mostly because there is no such place as "Jaynesville" Wis. :eek:
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    Your threads are getting worse and more desperate by the day.
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    Obama promised he would save it. He did not. Supporters should just take it on the chin as a failed promise. All this cobbling to defend it makes them look foolish.
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    Please show the unedited link where he promised to save it..
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    In February 2008, at a campaign stop in Janesville, Obama said, ”I believe that if our government is there to support you and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”

    Paul Ryan’s Medicare claims vs. his auto bailout claims
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    Guess you missed where Ryan said he was lying about Obama.. keep trying though.. BTW that is not a promise.

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ma-promising-keep-jaynesville-plant-open.html
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    Yes in 2009.

    When Obama was in office.

    He implied the plant would be saved. Because he wanted VOTES.

    Obama wont carry WI this time.
    It takes a while to get rid of a Liar like Obama.
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    Ryan was wrong to imply that the reason for the plant's closing was Obama's fault. He admitted so...but only after he got caught. That he can't blame Obama for the closing doesn't let Obama off the hook for implying that with him and hs government in office the plant would live on.

    If Obama said "I believe that if our government is there to support you… this plant will be here for another hundred years", then we do have an implied promise in my opinion.

    If our government is there to support you=it won't be if the other guy's voted in.

    To me that means that if Obama was voted in, then the government will be there to support you and the plant would still be there for another 100 years.

    Am I wrong?
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    Your comments are clearly articulated, but this seems to be a semantical argument. The issue raised by Ryan was that Obama "promised", and it has been demonstrated that he clearly did not.

    What do they do not talk about is how hard Ryan, Feingold etc. all fought to keep it open, but failed to do so. So instead of saying their efforts did not work, it was easier to blame Obama.

    The basic problem is that the plant actually closed in Dec. of 2008, and a skeleton crew of 57 continued until April to finish up and close it down. Not sure he could have done all that much.. if the time lines were advanced, he may have been able to do more, but there is no evidence to prove this.
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    I agree blaming Obama was wrong I also can see how doing that would deflect from the fact they too failed to keep it open. But what was Obama saying then? I don't think he can hide behind semantics here.
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    Obama implied the plant would stay open with Gov support. He was the only candidate that said that. McAin didnt say that, but Obama did.

    So why did Obama imply that? Answer - To get WI votes.

    Further proof that underscores Obama will say anything to get elected
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    The context needs to be viewed in time, he said this in Feb. 2008 and I do not read where he "promised to keep it open". This is just campaign rhetoric, not much else..

    ”I believe that if our government is there to support you and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”

    I have read these comments over and over, do not see where the whole concept of promise fits in..

    The reality is that the government was not there to keep it open in December 2008...
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