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  1. Rob0729

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    Here is the video from NFL.com site:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803fe0f3

    You know how this is a BS explaination? Pereira says that the PI clearly occurs on the Pats 9 yard line, but the refs said it happened on the Pats' six yard line. If you look what is going on at the 6 yard line, Wayne is pulling down Hobb's arm. It seems pretty clear to me that Pereira tried to find anything to make this call sound correct.
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    I watched the same thing myself on the Network last night and I almost puked all of the TV. That was one of the worst calls I've ever seen, I've watched alot of football. There is no justifying how bad that call was. It's been talked about all over the country and here's Mr. Pereira doing the best he can to stick up for that crap crew he put on that field Sunday. The biggest game in the history of the league and you give us your B Team Mike, don't justify that call, it was brutal. Wayne should have been called for mauling Ellis as he was trying to get to the ball himself.
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    Reggie Wayne put his hand on Ellis first. He initiated contact. That's inexcusable. I can't even say "nice try" here, either.
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    This guy is paid to lie.
    No credibility.
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    Somehow, now the call is even worse.
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    What a crock of s***. It's really no surprise he's spinning the hell out of this but it is nauseating none the less...
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    I tried to watch this earlier and it almost made me physically sick......The worst part is, now all the Colts fans can say, "See even Pereira says it was the right call."

    I hate being the guy that "whines" about the officiating (especially since we still got the W), but I have never been so mad even after we won. I definitely did not even enjoy the victory Sunday night because I kept replaying the awful calls in my head.

    But enough of that, we won and this is the last time I'm going to complain about the officiating.
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    What a load of crap. Pereira has NEVER said anything was a bad call. He is a dildo. I have seen this segment several times and he has never said, "the call was wrong". What a turd. I really have no idea how he justifies that call...now that I have seen it again, the call was plain awful.
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    I was listening to PFW in progress and some listener compared Pereira's comments to listening to "Baghdad Bob" telling the country that everything is fine. The Americans are being repelled, and they have everything undercontrol. All the while bombs are dropping around him, and plumes of smoke can be seen in the background.

    Even Rich Eisen had a raised eyebrow while he listened to that explaination.

    Of course they ignored the missed calls on Harrison (pulled down) and Moss, the bad spot, and I wonder about the hold on Faulk (among many). I guess he would review that as being "incidental contact".

    WHAT JOKE:
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    I mean the Hobbs call was sickening, but when they really screwed the Pats and didn't call Brackett for mauling Kevin Faulk on that 3rd down pass, I was going nuts, I honestly thought that Bill Polian had spoken to each and every one of these officials right before the game, I wouldn't put it past him.

    That bogus non-call on Faulk after Brackett literally mauled him cost us an automatic 1st down in Indy territory and definately on our way to 3 or 7 points, instead we had to punt.

    I've seen NFL officials call that PI 99% of the time especially when they showed the front camera angle. The whole thing made me sick, we not only had to beat a great Colts team on their home field, we had to beat the corrupted refs. Wow are we powerful.............
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    LOL, Big Time, I did notice the look on Eisen's face as Perreira continued his spew, it was priceless.
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    I am so sick of the A-hole lawyering every BLOWN call by the referees. Does he ever say that his guys absoluteley screwed the pooch? If he did, I can't remember it.
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    When a legitimately bad call is made and your team loses... everyone calls you a whiner who can't take the loss. When a legitimately bad call is made and your team wins... everyone says your a sore winner, and you should get over it.

    So if your not aloud to point out legitimately bad calls when your team wins, and you can't point them out when your team loses, how does attention ever get put on legitimate problems in the product?

    I think ultimately the "whining" needs to be done when their is a legitimately bad call. In other businesses they call it quality control, and its what keeps a companies reputation from going to crap.

    So I think us fans are doing our job. Unfortunately, we seem to be being dismissed by the higher ups, and in the end that will just hurt the product.

    Likewise it seems to me that after listening to that crazy spin justifying the call on Hobbs... If I'm the New England Patriots I can't score enough points any game... because I don't know if I'll be given access to a fair game that week or not.

    Tony Eason's Patriots... I could see setting the franchise record for penalties, but when its the most discipled Pats team in history that does it... I start becoming convinvinced that something has the odor of fish about it.
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    Perfect, you are 100% correct with this post. Again, I blame Pereira, he is responsible for the crew assignment, and that horrible crew for this great game is on his shoulders, so ofcourse he's spinning the call his way, otherwise he would incriminate himself on the crap job he did on his crew assignment. The guy is a farce, he's a used-car salesman, and that's being kind.
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    Geez guys, Pereira basically states that in the Jets game, that should have been "bang, bang" and incomplete. Stated that since the refs called it a catch and fumble on the field, and replay showed two feet and control, they couldn't reverse. In the next segment, admits that Morency should not have been accountable for the kick. They ruled forward pass, incomplete, but the delay of game should not have been tacked on. You guys make it sound like he never goes awry of the original calls. On the Hobbs call, although it was pretty close, and could have been a no call, contact was made before Hobbs turned to look for the ball, Wayne is obviously playing the ball, bucket, you get flagged. Bunch a friggin' whiners is all I see here.
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    Why do they even have this on the NFL network if you know that this clown is just going to spew out unobjective crap - and his manner is so arrogant its just disgusting. What would be the big deal if this loser admits that a ref can make a bad call from time to time. Its like he is scared to be objective on all these examples. These are controversial calls all the time!!! Anyone with a pair of eyes and a basic understanding of the game of football can see it when it happens. But the way he talks about them, the are all cut and dry. Like his word is gospel or something....
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    Bunch of whiners here? Oh I see, well I guess the whole country outside of Indy is a bunch of whiners then, because every person who saw the call outside of the Indy zip code, QUESTIONED THE CALL !!!!!!!!!! Ask Rich Eisen what he thought of the call. Give me break, Periera will never, ever throw his guys under the bus and undermine a huge PI call in a huge game like that he would never do it....................Wake up
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    So then you agree that there were at least 5 plays that Indy should have been flagged on, including one play where Hayden was holding Moss' right hand down and the Faulk no-call?

    Edit to say: Had Indy been on the wrong end of that type of game, it would still be a top story on nearly every sports program, with Polian leading the charge.
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    And you are looking at it as an unbiased observer. The thing is even if you agree with the call, you cannot dispute the spot of the ball. The supposive foul occured on the Pats 9-10 yard line and the ball was spotted on the six.

    Considering the difference in where Pereira says the foul occured and where it was spotted, you gotta admit that the refs may have called this foul for a totally different reason.
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    WOW ARE YOU KIDDING ME?, Ellis Hobbs received a written apology from the NFL after they literally screwed the Pats ON ANOTHER HORRIBLE PI CALL in the AFCCG, A WRITTEN APOLOGY, IT HANDED THE COLTS 7 BOGUS POINTS. ODDLY ENOUGH WITH THE SAME TWO PARTIES INVOLVED (HOBBS AND WAYNE).
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    Get lost. Why are you still lurking on a Patriots board, loser. Get the F outta here, dildo.
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    Written apology as reported by a Pats site? Look, the calls were not the best, granted. What Pereira does (as someone else has stated) is try to interpret what he feels the officials on the field saw at the time of the play. It was a mere milli second, but Hobbs DOES impede Wayne before he looks for the ball. IMO, should have been a no call. But I learned long ago to take what they give you. Pats have for years, no apologies. Funny how you think you are being screwed all the way to 16-0!!
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    As reported by the Globe and Herald.
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    I put this in another thread but it bears repeating here, I guess-

    Mike Pereira's explanation of the Hobbs PI penalty was not one of emphatic support. He justifies the call by ASKING viewers whether Hobbs was turned around before Hobbs made contact with Wayne. Mike Pereira (head of NFL officials) answers his own question by saying, "I don't think so." Huh?

    Before he ran the clip of the play, Pereira had implied that the call was a "classic" case of cutting off a receiver's route illegally; then he shows the play and gives the limp wrist endorsement above. Even allowing for the fact that fallible human judgement is required on any penalty call, this was the weakest validation of one of his refs I've ever seen.
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    Meanwhile the referees missed a ton of calls/penalties on the Colts:

    Referees signaling Aaron Moorehead's catch in bounds
    Dallas Clark mauling Rodney Harrison on the interception attempt
    Gary Brackett mauling Kevin Faulk on screen pass attempt
    Referees spotting the ball an extra yard, rewarding the Colts a faux first down
    Aaron Moorehead clipping on Rashad Baker during Joseph Addai's long run
    Antoine Bethea interfering with Randy Moss on the deep post pattern
    Colts offensive lineman ripping Rosevelt Colvin's helmet completely off
    Colts defense simulating Patriots offensive snap count
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    I was watching the game at my brothers house...and when they came back from the commercial....by bro came back into the room to ask me what was the down and distance....and I said, Second and about 2 yards.

    1st and 10 Colts....I had to rewind the DVR......thinking I must have missed a play. You have got to be kidding me.

    I rewatched the game yesterday.....and it looks like they gave Addai another yard and a half....The Pats got jobbed on that spot...big time.
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    No - the broadcast had the yellow line in the wrong spot. It was the fault of CBS. It is possible to figure this from previous threads on Sunday night but also looking at the tape and then looking at where the drive started on 1st down two plays earlier.
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    Remember Moss being called for offensive pass interference in the 4th? What a crock of sh!t.
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    My problem is with the line judge waiving the chain gang on (indicating a 1st down) even before the ball was spotted. As he was coming into the pile to spot the ball, he was clearly inside the 12 yard line, but somehow the ball ended up at the 12.

    I understand "rounding up" sometimes to a marked line on the hash. Makes bookkeeping for the officials a little easier. However you obviously don't do it if the 1st down yardage is in question.

    Bad spots happen. Farging up the process, which could have contributed to the sequence of events leading up to Addai's TD, is just another turd-ball thrown at the Pats from this crew.
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    Hey sh!t for brains... go away.

    No one listens to anything you have to say... which isn't much.

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    Anyone have Pereira's email address handy?
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