Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Tyler.Durden, Mar 18, 2010.
Where do you stand on vets missing the voluntary offseason workouts?
Brady just isn't into it like he was in seasons past. I think when you keep taking his weapons away from him and don't do anything to make his job easier that in itself can wear on any QB i'm sure.
The team building this season is far from done, so i'd be surprised if brady sitting out was anything to do with him being unhappy.
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Showing up in shape to tc is all that required for brady to be ready for the season. This time off may help rejuvenate him for the season ahead. He need to be sharp and healthy for the postseason.
I voted for A, because I do think that they SHOULD show. I'm not going to rake them over the coals if they don't though. Brady/Warren/Moss are adults, and they've been great players for us. I trust that they'll all show up to camp in great shape and be there to set the tone for the rookies. Not like there are any new players to acclimate anyways.
This is pretty much how I feel about it. I would like for them to be there, but these workouts ARE voluntary and it's their right to miss them if they feel the need to do so.
A good period of prolonged rest can do just as good as extra workouts.
Today`s chat mike pointed out the Mike vrabel was never big into the whole voluntary off season workout in his time in NE.
How many of you who knew about this for the last 10 yrs ?
How many here thinks Vrabel was a crappy leader and a player for not taking part in it?
ALSO ,am i the only one who sees ROOKIES mentioned in this before the DRAFT.:singing:
Vets should be there.
Yea i saw that after i posted it, can't edit a poll. Though the sentiment is still there. There are players attending the voluntary offseason workouts for the first time in essence make them rookies to the process.
Would this issue be greater if it were not the pats? Would you demand more of your vets at this time from a lesser team?
My take is if these rookies can't get motivated by playing for the best team of the prior decade and they can't get it from our coaching staff either, then what the heck are they doing there? Just being able to exchange a sentence or two and get coached up by one of the best coaches EVER should be plenty. There will be a lot of time for vets to demonstrate leadership later. I'm not concerned about it in the middle of March. To me, this is a complete non-issue.
The only thing I would be concerned with is time Brady spends with Edelman and Tate.
If you've been in the league for less then 3 years you have to be there. The older guys won't get as much out of it and they know the drill and can do a lot of the work at home. Most of them have bigger families to take care of then the younger players anyway.
I voted the latter.
One thing that might keep Brady from playing a long time for the Patriots is neglecting his children. Many guys feel the need to spend time with family.
This is good for Tom.
I don't know enough about what Belichick's expectations are from the vets to absolutely choose one or the other. Maybe he wants everyone there, maybe he's only concerned about new players. Perhaps he's not concerned about trusted veterans for the 13-week conditioning, but wants them there for the next set of OTA's. Maybe he wants certain vets there because he thought they wore down as the season progressed. Could be that he thinks Brandon Meriwether is better off working out with Ed Reed in Miami this spring than being in Foxboro.
I don't know that it's a black-and-white 'yes they should all be there' or it's not necessary. This is pro football off-season workouts, not some 'voluntary' high school scrimmages and training.
People need to grow up, it's a voluntary camp in March. Brady's paid his dues.
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there's a reason such a thing as 'offseason' exists
Brady and probably Moss too should take all the time they can to heal and recharge. It's a long, tough season.
I agree. Banged up players need to rest.
Both had nagging injuries, need time to heal and we do not know if they are following a workout regimen away from Gillette one designed by the Training Staff....
you lead by example.
not showing up is a major mistake..... A practice is a practice.... no matter what the word before it is.
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