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US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Savages

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    Sarah van Gelder: On Columbus Day: Senate Apology Should Be Followed With Action

     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    Good News!

    About time we did somthing good in our government, more we do to correct our wrong's the better.

    What we did to the Indian's was wrong and i'm glad people are starting to wake up to history, most of what they teach us is was a lie.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    What we did to the Indian's was wrong and i'm glad people are starting to wake up to history, most of what they teach us is was a lie.

    How do we apologize for driving the Neanderthals into extinction? We didn't do anything to the native americans that they weren't doing to each other, we just did it a lot better.
     
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    #18 Jersey

    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    What happened in America has ocurred throughout history. It doesn't make it right, but it wasn't uncommon at all. What do you thinks happened in South America, Canada and Australia?

    Give em all reparations!...........NOT
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav



    However you want to rationalize it, you can. Excuses are like a-holes everyone has one, whats yours?

    Don't feel bad, your not the only arrogant one here. It just shows you know nothing about history.

    Your part of the problem just so you know, its this kind of ignorance that breed ignorance in others..........
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav


    So if someone jumps off a cllif, are you going to?


    lol:rolleyes:

    Ya thats what I thought...........its called rationalizing learn about it,its a thinking error dude but you would not no anything about that stuff now would you?

    You teach your children to lead by example, not follow the leader.......
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    PatriotReign's thinking, to use a simple analogy:
    If you have a gun, there's nothing wrong with shooting someone on the street and stealing their money, if you can get away with it. If you didn't shoot them, someone else would have!! History is filled with murderers and thieves, so it's okay. Everything is morally right based on might.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    Can you interprate what you wrote above for me fella? Are you saying you support reparations?

    What does "its called rationalizing learn about it,its a thinking error dude but you would not no anything about that stuff now would you?" mean because it makes no sense to a literate person.
     
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    Ok genius...tell us what YOU think should be done about ALL the countries the were conquered/raped/pillaged and exploited? Because if you think something should be done, we need to know WHAT you think should happen. and whatever you believe should be done, it MUST apply to ALL countries that have had that happen since the beginning of history....good luck with that.

    Details please...maybe THEN we can have a discussion.

    Your analogy is a joke and a lie in reference to ME pal. Never once since our discussion began have I ever said it wasn't wrong. I specifically stated the "right or wrong" part wasn't relevant to our discussion. but YOU started at point "A" and steared the debate to issues YOU wanted to debate. Guess what Mav....THAT WAS WRONG OF YOU TO DO. WILL YOU ADMIT THAT?

    I'm not the only member hear who is onto you Mav. You have continuously and purposefully brought threads off topic to areas that you love to debate....

    Namely;

    Exploitation
    Racism
    The downfalls of Capitalism
    Apologies for Middle Eastern, Native Americans and African-Americans
    The evils of America
    Conspiracies of the Elite (like you're a Marxist or something :rolleyes:)

    You do not have the right to take thread topics to unrelated issues. If a thread is not about one of the above issue, you are not allowed to discuss them in it. You do this over and over and no one knows why....so please tell us?

    There is nothing wrong with those topics, "If" that's what the thread is about. If I had the time or disire, I could show you countless times you bring up racism even when a thread isn't about racism.

    Why are you so obsessed with these topics?
     
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    Conquering countries could just say they were sorry, couldn't they?

    Reperations are almost impossible after any period of time has gone by - but apologies are always acceptable - and generally welcomed.

    Admissions of wrong-doings almost always go a long way towards repairing relations.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    So much for respecting the traditions and culture of the native americans, just flush all their beliefs down the crapper... nice:D:D
     
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    I actually agree with you on apologies. but questions still remain. How far back would we go with them? What if more than one country (S. America) exploited a country.

    I actually prefer that history books tell the complete truth about history without any bias. Of course young children don't need to hear about murder and rape, but as they progress into middle school, it would be appropriate.

    We also need to admit that what happened is history and that no one alive is in any way responsible or guilty of anything. I REALLY hate when I meet people who "ACT" as if they're carrying around any guilt over slavery, native-Americans or any other exploited people. Hello? It's impossible for anyone to feel guilt over something they never did...if they do, they need to see their psychiatrist more often.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    However you want to rationalize it, you can. Excuses are like a-holes everyone has one, whats yours?

    Don't feel bad, your not the only arrogant one here. It just shows you know nothing about history.

    Your part of the problem just so you know, its this kind of ignorance that breed ignorance in others..........


    Ok, I'll support an apology and reperations when Mongolia does the same for everything they did from the time of Genghis Khan.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav


    Mongolia doesn't celebrate Genghis Day, claiming he "discovered" Europe, and they don't celebrate bringing "civilization" to the savages.
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    Are you beyond stupid, or serious (or, just a typical moron right-winger posting things that don't prove their claims)?

    Nowhere in that link does it suggest they celebrate a holiday of Genghis for "discovering" the savages of Europe.... like we do with Columbus Day for America. Posting a link about celebrating Genghis, is pretty funny since you think it's the same thing as Columbus Day.
     
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    Mav...you must really be d'man in your own mind.

    Why do you constantly ask people if they are stupid or "obtuse" (for those you struggle with)?

    REVELATION....you're not that smart BA-RUH-THAH! :D Wake up the fact.

    You truly don't think you just another bozo on the bus like the rest of us...another "run of the mill" guy you are even if you can't admit it.:americaflag:
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    One thing for certain, is there aren't Mongolian supremacists like PatriotReign claiming they've dominated all of recorded history, and that killing and conquering are morally justified since 'someone else would have done it'. According to PR, if you have a gun you can rob and steal from people on the street, since the rule of might also gives moral right.
     
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    Look!!:eek: Another one who likes to call members names. Must be a disease for characters like you.:americaflag:

    REPARATIONS FOR ANYONE ARE TO BE LAUGHED AT. :rofl: :rofl:

    They'll never happen nor should they....just like MrsPFiVA said!

    Care to counter?
     
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    Re: US Senate Passes Amendment Admitting Explorers Didn't 'Discover' Continent of Sav

    This isn't about reparations, it's about your false meme that Europeans/Caucasians have dominated the planet since Christ, and that enslaving/colonizing was at worst not that bad.

    Not surprised you're trying to change the subject though, since you've already been caught contradicting yourself on numerous occasions the past few days. Care to deny something you wrote, only to show what a clown you are again?
     

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