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  1. Real World

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    Why be independent when you can outsource money and jobs for someone else's fuel.


    Obama: Drill, Brazil, Drill! - Investors.com



    Obama: Drill, Brazil, Drill!

    Posted 03/21/2011 07:08 PM ET


    Energy Policy: While leaving U.S. oil and jobs in the ground, our itinerant president tells a South American neighbor that we'll help it develop its offshore resources so we can one day import its oil. WHAT?!?


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    Well G Soros has a BIG investment in Petrobra the Brazilian Oil company. The Obama administration gave $20B to develop Petrobra's deep sea oil fields. The administration just granted permits for Petrobra to drill in the Gulf Of Mexico. The administration is denying permots to US Oil companies. G Soros donates a lot of money to certain politicans and political parties and funds certain political websites. The Administration promises Brazil we will buy lots of Oil from Petrobras. Lots of jobs for Brazilian workers. Bupkus for American workers.

    Heck of a way to do business.

    Follow the money. Connect the dots.
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    That's unpossible! That kind of thing went away when Cheney left Washington!
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    Too freakin' funny. To think that some people still hold to the liberal lie's re: Cheney / Haliburton.

    Cheney's severance package / retirement was settled before he took office. If Haliburton made an extra billion or two or three it wouldn't change the package. The same applies if they had lost their shirts.

    Even his holiness the Obama agreed that, considering the limitation on contracts like that (set markup rates, etc.) Haliburton was the best choice - especially since when it went up for bid there were no takers.
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    "Unpossible" is a Ralph Wiggum classic. Great application here, 10 points for style.
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    Hi welcome, I believe Brandon's comment is tongue in cheek. ;)
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    In the interest of fairness Soros sold his stock in Petrobras 6mths ago. For a tidy profit.
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    The point is that we haven't had an energy policy in my lifetime. Meanwhile we send billions and trillions to foreign lands for oil, without even looking to see if we have any of our own. It's absolutely mind boggling to say the least. This country is so arse backwards that our only hope is go bankrupt, and start over.
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    Heh, and yet people think it began when Cheney got to Washington.

    I bet if some people brewed up some coffee and typed bridas unocal centgas into Google, they would get an eye-opener.
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    Can one of the Obama-soxers on here explain this? Why help Brazil to drill if it is an environmental risk?
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    Being the loyal Republican that you so obviously are, you'd be wise to not go there.

    Following the money trail and connecting dots? Are you quite serious? :rolleyes:

    Why don't you just TELL us you're going to throw nothing but sweet 85 mph fastballs down the middle-in portion of the plate. Should go well for your ERA.
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    Because the global economy absolutely MUST have it? Just a wild guess. Same with Deepwater Horizon, same with occupying Iraq, same with strip mining Alberta, same with hydraulic fracking. It's interesting to me that so many people still can not get their head around this reality.

    Not saying it's ethical, just stating it for what it is.

    Oh, and that "environmental risk" you mentioned? That'll be coming here too, worry not. Poison water tables in middle-America be damned.

    You news hounds here caught that second new spill discovered in our Gulf this week, as confirmed by the Coast Guard? I mean, if you snoozed on Fukushima and Libya all week, you may have missed it.
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    Whats this policy that you speak of? :confused:
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    Ok genius, why are we subidizing oil driling for Brazil with borrowed money and cutting off our own supplies of fossil fuels?
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    So the global economy doesn't need the oil from the Gulf of Mexico?

    I'd settle for logical.

    Not sure what fracking has to do with offshore drilling, other than less drilling creates more demand for fracking.

    Your right. We are too easily distracted by minor events like a natural disaster of biblical proportions, a possible nuclear meltdown and our participation in another military action.
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    A possibility, and we need to be up there with China exploring Thorium reactors as an alternative to Uranium based Nuclear.

    Safe nuclear does exist, and China is leading the way with thorium - Telegraph

    If China’s dash for thorium power succeeds, it will vastly alter the global energy landscape and may avert a calamitous conflict over resources as Asia’s industrial revolutions clash head-on with the West’s entrenched consumption.

    China’s Academy of Sciences said it had chosen a “thorium-based molten salt reactor system”. The liquid fuel idea was pioneered by US physicists at Oak Ridge National Lab in the 1960s, but the US has long since dropped the ball.

    “The reactor has an amazing safety feature,” said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA engineer at Teledyne Brown and a thorium expert.
    If it begins to overheat, a little plug melts and the salts drain into a pan. There is no need for computers, or the sort of electrical pumps that were crippled by the tsunami. The reactor saves itself,” he said.

    There is no chain reaction Fission ceases as soon as the Photon Beam is shut off.
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    Meanwhile while we shut down a lot of our coal reserves and now we are shipping our resources off the India and China.

    Climate Law Blog Blog Archive Carbon Offshoring: India, China buying U.S. coal mines, shale gas fields, LNG terminals



    Port plans include Wyoming's Powder River Basin coal

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    I heard we're selling the Great Lakes to China too.
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    How in God's name do you get a conclusion that asks that question from what I typed?

    It needs oil from EVERY conceivable location. That's why it's raping land and sea to get to it. When it comes to global trade and lubing the system, there are NO nations anymore. It is a fungible commodity, and it can't be horded.

    (yet)

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