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US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive

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    US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive - Telegraph

    I don't know where the people will go if Obama bulldoze their cities. We will see many empty lands. It sure reminds you of America in 1920.
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    I actually think this is a good idea..........I've always believed in urban renewal.........

    the biggest problem with the idea is that the politicians will dole out the empty land to their cronies
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    Will this be before or after Obama goes door to door taking children away from families so that they can be cannabalized?
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    you could not possibly shove your head further up your own arse on this one......

    this is actually a very valid notion to bring up........
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    Absolutely, as I understand it, a czar will be appointed to delegate soldiers to splash red paint on certain neighborhood doors.
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    Just read an article yesterday where investors were buying up home in bunches. I browsed a little, but those homes for $12,000 were not for me.
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    if you can swing the long term investment, could pay big
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    Many moons ago Buddy Cianci and Joe Paolino former Providence, RI mayors started doing this in blighted areas. Also tearing down housing projects (big apartment size) and building smaller condo like buildings for public housing. It was a great idea and Providence renewed itself. South Providence was real bad ... drug infested prostitute laden areas where nobody, not even the destitute wanted to live.

    Shrinking a city is a very excellent idea ... and it has proven to be worth it.
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    Did Cianci and Paolino own the construction co. that tore down the buildings and hauled away the ruble.

    Not for nothin, but when i saw the names Ciance and Paolino it sounded kind of shaky. :p
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    Hey with an Imminent Domain policy on steriods, these property seizures should be a piece of cake. Get the land for almost nothing, bulldoze it to nothing and put in some pretty condos - a free flower pot on every window cill.

    A great way for politicians and their lackeys to make an extra buck or million. Throw in a free month of socialized health care, just to sweeten the deal.

    Yes, the change we've always wanted.
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    This is nothing new...it's just another version of "urban renewal" that takes land away that doesn't "look good" and remakes it into things like parkland and condo complexes that don't really generate all that much increased income for the cities- just changes their image.

    It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it's just hiding the problem from view.
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    BS. It's a bad idea that doesn't work- rarely has except to line the pockets of a few at the expense of the general public
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    Whenever you hear the words "think-tank"...be concerned...VERY concerned!:mad:

    Imagine people thinking they actually have the ability to think better than others about what's best for the people of these cities.

    When I hear the words "Think-tank" I envision the sound WEEI uses to blow people up...theoretically of course.
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    Sorta like what they did in New Orleans? Or the fishing villages that dotted the coast in Banda Aceh? Good chance to cleanse the land of undesirables and whip up a little commercial/corporate zonage.

    Naomi Klein wrote a book about this kind of "opportunity" that disasters and economic devastation present to privatization... It was called "Shock Doctrine."

    Con men love it. It gets "developers" filthy rich, while "ethnically cleansing" the sprawl at the same time.

    "In devastation, there is always opportunity"
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    You know with property values tanked, it is a good opportunity for investors to buy up large parcels of available real estate. Un fortunately with any investor or developer you dont get to see the end game until the end. Hopefully, those private entities will be able to rebuff some downtrodden areas. With municple budgets tighter than ever, private individuals will be responsible for upgading or cleaning up portions of our cities and suburbs.
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    I don't have a problem with this but given that most of the areas that should be bulldozed are poor and many of them are "black", this will get really ugly. When they start bulldozing black areas (it won't be just black but it largely will) . . . well that will be interesting.
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    in health care, there is opportunity, also

    there's corruption in everything that goes on.............there are portions of these cities (detroit for one) where large areas are near deserted....and there's no need for the buildings or any kind of redevelopment......it ain't LA........the best thing would be to just level it and return it to its original for which was fields or woods....there are lots of commercial areas that will never be needed again.....it would make sense to discard them
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    I ultimately don't have a problem with that.... What I have a problem with is Milton Friedman disciples reaping huge profits off the displacement and dislocation of poor people.
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    I agree with you on this all the way. I hate people profiting off others despair. The worst example to me is Haliburton. I'm sure we're probably aligned on that as well.
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    From what I read this land was being turned into green space or public land..

    This idea comes from some stuff out of Flint Michigan, and in many cities it probably is a good idea... they did it in parts of NYC, as ICY said parts of Providence.. someone always profits, but the change is a lot better.. when you drive through South Prov.. things seem to be different.
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    Or sends Rahm Emmanuel to make them into passover matzot...

    For the sarcasm impaired: this characterization is meant to imply a parallel between the ridiculous random attacks on all things Obama with the blood libel, particularly in the present atmosphere of antisemitism on both the right and the left, not to assert that I believe in this canard or that others should. Idiots.
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    Gee there's a surprise. So urban renewal and cleanup of blight becomes the bulldozing of 50 American cities, Khmer-rouge style.

    I won't say you're dumb, OP, but I will say this is a dumb thread.

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    So who's paying for this union contracted bulldozing of area's that no one will use for another 4 or 5 decades if it's ever used at all? Where's the money going to come from? Urban renewal on a mass scale only works when there is a demand for the land, or property, in question. I'm not opposed to UR projects, but they need to be specific, and target only area's that ave a future. If not, it's money wasted on a massive scale, cuz construction projects, especially gubmit run one's, are far from cheap.
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    Actually, some of the savings identified in the '10 budget isn't a specific cash savings at all - it's a bang-for-the-buck savings, coming from the U.S. Dept. of Transportation, which has said its project bids are coming in 20, 30, 40% below estimate, because it's a down economy.

    Therefore, you can go deeper on the priority list and build more stuff. Half the goal, you may recall, is to get the $ into the economy.

    I still don't know why we need to shovel these enormous piles of $$$ at farmers and hunters, however. Seems like pretty much a dead end.

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    Let just hope that Obama doesn't give these free lands to his friends or party members. It sounds like communist and socialist.
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    If you bulldoze these areas, where do you send the residents? We'll see a lot of poor people in a crowded city.

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