US Airways passengers get $5,000 each; is it enough?

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by Real World, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    Where would you fall, if you were one of the passengers on this plane. Try to answer honestly. Think about it a little bit. How would you react when the mail came, and there was $5,000 in it, among other things. Would you be satisfied, or feel that you deserve more? Obviously people should be reimbursed for whatever belongings they lost. Some of the stuff was probably very important, and even irreplacable. Having survived such an incident though, would you even care about whatever material belongings you lost. Would you sue, in order to take advantage of an opportunity to fatten your bank account a little bit. Would you feel the airline was liable for your "pain & suffering", or would you be grateful that they had a crew that saved your life. In reading this article, I wondered what I would do, and I think I'd be elated to be alive, first and foremost. Considering I was on a US Airways Airbus A320 out of Logan, connecting to Charolette, the day before this flight took a dip into the Hudson, I can say that with sincerity. I don't think cashing in would have ever even crossed my mind. I stopped to think about what I brought with me to Florida when this happened, and I think it'd be about as important as the lint in my pocket, were I to survive a crash landing into a river, like these people did.

    So one guy says he would "like to be made whole again". Does he not realize he is whole, and not hamburger, cuz of a competant crew and pilot that saved his life?

    US Airways passengers get $5,000 each; is it enough?

    Enlarge By Eric Thayer, Reuters

    Rescuers search the Hudson River on Jan. 15. No lives were lost. "But passengers lost luggage, briefcases, cellphones, BlackBerrys and business documents, and went through a terrific ordeal," a safety advocate says.

    By Gary Stoller, USA TODAY

    Many US Airways (LCC) passengers who endured a crash landing in the Hudson River 12 days ago say they appreciate the $5,000 that the airline has offered — but some say it's not enough. Joe Hart, a salesman from Charlotte who suffered a bloody nose and bruises, says he "would like to be made whole for the incident."

    It's too soon after the accident to determine what emotional distress he has suffered, he says.


    After the crash, US Airways sent passengers a letter of apology, a $5,000 check to assist "with immediate needs" and reimbursement for the ticket.

    US Airways passengers get $5,000 each; is it enough? -

    Gotta love this guy.

  2. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    #18 Jersey

    I would absolutely and without guilt sue them for as much as I could get.

    "feel lucky to be alive" Of course they should feel fortunate. But that does not change the fact these people will be screwed up for life. Do you realize there is proof this exact plane had engine problems 2 days before this accident? Do you also know that there is no evidence that supports geese are the only reason this plane went down?

    Data recorder shows plane lost power in both engines simultaneously

    Hudson jet's wreckage moved to N.J. - Life-

    US Airways passenger says jet that made splash landing in Hudson River had serious engine problems two days before

    Birds to Blame? -

    Hint: BOTH engines failed simultaneously.

    If it was engine problems on a plane they knew had issues, then I hope the passengers sue them out of business.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2009
  3. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

    So the engines being repaired a couple of days earlier means that it wasn't birds? I'm going to guess that the plane flew after the engines were fixed, and before the landing in the river. Those planes, when they land at their destination, are filled up and fly right back to where they came from, or someplace else. I'm not saying it wasn't an engine problem, but to say it is, without evidence to support such a claim, doesn't certify that it was.

    Eventually we'll find out, but as of right now, it's the birds that caused the problems. If that is the case, you would still sue?
  4. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    #18 Jersey

    I think I would. But without having the actual experience, it's impossible for any of us to say what we'd do.
  5. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    Sounds like an act of nature not neglect, if this is proven to be the case it sounds about right.. if it was neglect and not an act of nature it should be higher.. I think it is enough.
  6. Fogbuster

    Fogbuster Pro Bowl Player


    You just know that some NY lawyer on board is working on a multi-BILLION dollar class action law suit, claiming the airlines "should have been aware of the propensity of migratory birds being in the vicinity at that time of day and at that particular location", or some such hog wash.

    Wait and see. They'll wait a few weeks, then strike.

    And I hope the airlines fights them tooth and nail.

  7. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

    I honestly don't think I'd want anything beyond whatever money I lost from being inconvenienced that day. Statistically, these things are going to happen once every million flights or whatever it's been. It's still one of the safest forms of travel. if there turned out to be proof that the engine failure was the result f neglect I might feel differently.
  8. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Pro Bowl Player

    #80 Jersey

    Neglect is what a court will rule on.

    Having said that, there are reports that on eof the engines on the same plane was blown out a week before. If the passengers can prove that the airline ran the plane back in the fleet knowing an engine might fail have a case.

    What ar ethe odds that 2 geese fly into two engines at the same time...especially when one of those engines was just rebuilt? Prove neglagence, and prove the case.

    If this was truly an act of nature....5gs is pretty good. I certainly don't fly with 5 grand worth of stuff. I would talk to a lawyer before signing or accepting any payments. The investigation should yield some results.
  9. Lifer

    Lifer Banned

    I will not rest until we hunt down every goose involved in this cowardly crime against humanity.
  10. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    #18 Jersey

    They do not have a country, so they're definately terrorists geese. Some of them weren't even white geese! ;) A dead give-away!
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  11. Bigdogx

    Bigdogx On the Game Day Roster

    Good people, go ahead and sue, ill be the one laughing in the corner when these same people are *****ing and moaning about how a plane ride to Florida now cost 500% more!
  12. MrBigglesWorth

    MrBigglesWorth Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    gee go figure, no wonder our society is junk. let's sue everyone else
  13. sdaniels7114

    sdaniels7114 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    What's printed on your ticket such as Usair 746 or Delta 1120 is a call sign that only identifies a particular flight. It doesn't identify a particular plane. Flights are scheduled months and even years in advance. Planes are assigned to a particular flight much later and change right up until they actually call for boarding. The airlines also keep spare engines on standby, even if that was the same plane there's a chance the engines were just swapped out at Charlotte. It only takes a crew an hour or two to disconnect a suspect engine and connect one with a clean bill of health. Sometimes that's the most efficient way to get problems fixed and meet a schedule.

    Anyhow, I'd be thrilled with my 5 grand and prolly take a chunk of it to Foxwoods to see if any of the fantastically good luck that brought the plane down safe was left over.
  14. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    You're part of what's wrong with America buddy. I agree with Wildo and sdaniels here (wow), other than medical expenses, lost luggage or lost time at work this falls into the "sh!t happens" area and people jumping off their asses to sue is part of why a lot of things, including health care and insurance, are do damn expensive.
  15. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    Chances are, I'd simply want to get past it and take the $5,000. The people who sue for more end up living a big chunk of their lives reliving the trauma rather than moving on.

    That said, if there was real evidence of neglect by the airline, I would consider suing for more because the only language corporations understand is money, and if the lawsuit prevailed demonstrated shortcomings on the part of US Air, then airlines in general would do a better job with safety (rather than pay out millions in lawsuits).

    Fog doesn't seem to care about billionaires (Reverend Moon) who become rich by exploiting Japanese widows, but does care about someone traumatized suing the airline. And Bigdogx seems to be taking a socialist line, saying that people shouldn't sue because it will cause harm to others.
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2009
  16. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Pro Bowl Player

    #75 Jersey

    I agree and would go a step further.

    Lost time at work and lost stuff should not be compensated, either. When you get on a plane, there are risks involved like anything else. This amounts to a car accident. If you total your car, your insurance company will pay for the car and pay your med bills and that's all.

    It was an accident (assuming it was geese flying into the engines). Most on that plane are lucky to be alive today, and part of that is due to the airline having the wisdom and policies to have the best pilot with the best training on that flight. $5000! That's a gift!
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2009
  17. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    #18 Jersey

    ACtually, I am the light and the way BF! ;)

    If you read all my post, I said if there were problems with the engines, they should sue for all they can get. And if that's the case, that's what everyone (even YOU & Wistah!) should do because that would mean they are negligent.

    So you wouldn't sue them even if they over-looked problems with the engines? If that's what you'd do, you'd not only be wrong, you'd be stupid.

    Did both of even bother to read my entire post? Or are you just REACTING to that one sentence I wrote?

    US Airways passenger says jet that made splash landing in Hudson River had serious engine problems two days before

    Birds to Blame? -
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2009
  18. Harry Boy

    Harry Boy Look Up, It's Amazing Supporter

    A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush

    If they go for more they will wait years for it, some of them might die in another Plane Crash.

    I'm not afraid of flying I'm afraid of crashing.

    "doctor my husband thinks he's a chicken"
    "well, i'll have him admitted to the asylum"
    "no, you can't do that"
    "we need the eggs"

  19. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    I don't disagree but I can at least see the argument for that compensation - but the idea of suing for some crazy punitive damages is grotesquely wrong.
  20. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    When the NTSB says that was the problem then it's an issue. Meanwhile, if both engines go out the odds are better that it's a flock of birds than both engines going out at the same time regardless of what happened two days before.

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