And hopefully you will note that Manning went from 48.2% his first year of starting to 63.9% in his SEVENTH year as a starter, which is an increase of 15.2 pts over the years.
Take Tebow's 46.5% and give it a 15.2 pt bump and that would put him at 62.2%. I doubt that he would improve 15 pts, but 10 or 11 pts wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, and that would put him at around 58% give or take.
What are you talking about? You want to give Tebow credit for the improvement of another player? How exactly does that work?
And where do you get this arbitrary 10 or 11? Based upon last preseason he did not show any improvement at all.
Point is, it's silly to look at Tebow's 46.5% comp % over his first 14 starts in the NFL and conclude that this proves he isn't an NFL QB.
But no one is doing that. I am looking at his ABILITY. You will note I have never said his completion percentage is the evidence he is a bad QB, I have consistently said it is that he cannot throw the ball accurately, on top of his other flaws that you have pointed out.
As noted, Eli Manning is now at 63+% and has won 2 freaking SBs, even though he had a 48.2% comp % in his first season taking over as the starter.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with Tim Tebow. It is what Eli Manning accomplished.
BTW, since you brought Yards per Attempt into it, in Eli's first year, his Y/A was 5.3. Tebow's was 6.3.
Again, completely irrelevant.
Look, I didn't get into this discussion to rehash the entire Tebow debate. Rather, I took issue with a couple of comments that were made. Don't remember all of them at this second, by the most notable ones had to do with him having not gone to the CFL.
IF you want to go through the whole debate, that's fine, I'm game. I'll happily point out that Tebow's stats through his first 14 starts were comparable to Eli's stats though his first 14 starts.
Which is meaningless unless you demonstrate that Tebow has similar ability and can improve, which you cannot.
Your argument says that every QB who plays bad is good because you found one who turned the tables and improved.
Does that mean that Tebow definitely would follow the same path and develop into a very good QB ? Nope. But what it does show is that it is POSSIBLE. It also shows that it's silly to look at those stats from his first 14 games and conclude that he will never be an NFL QB.
It is possible for some QBs to improve. But not really possible for Tebow because he lacks the requisite skill.
The absolute MOST IMPORTANT thing that Tebow has to do at this time is fix his mechanics and be consistent with them.
This 'mechanics' euphamism for he doesn't throw the football well is old and tired. Mechanics were the excuse for his slow delivery. Now they are being made the excuse for the fact that he cannot accurately throw the football. The bottom line is that he does not throw the ball at an NFL QB caliber level.
Best way to do that wasn't to sign up with the CFL, rather, it was to go work INTENSIVELY with someone like Tom House. Not a week, or two, or three, but months and months and months of work.
Look, if your answer is that a QB who doesn't throw well should just go throw a whole bunch of passes and hope it gets better as the response to no team wanting him, I'm not sure what to tell you.
His ability has been demonstrated and no one wants him. It would seem to me that the only way to turn that around would be to go succeed on a football field somewhere and prove them wrong. I'm pretty sure you could go play in the Arena League or CFL and still work with a coach on the side.
Will it pay off ? Who knows. It might or it might not.
Not sure how it could, since no one wants him in camp.
